Over 65s I was just making the point that people, not necessarily on here, saying no one is dying from it are talking bollocks. Not to say lockdowns aren’t causing other deaths mind you.
All lives are important,especially to families of lost ones,it matters not what they died of.It was more curiosity to get an idea of what we're looking at with the virus.I agree entirely with what you are saying here,coronavirus is killing and other diseases continue to kill.... It's a hellish period in time that we are all having to cope with!! I genuinely wouldn't like to be involved in decision making at higher levels of government in this day and age.
I wasn’t meaning no one’s dying from it, but the facts & figures get conveniently crossed round to make everyone more scared. The media in this country seems to be enjoying their easy life, to just keep rehashing the same stories with new figures that make whatever story their telling fit the narrative. Take Eddie Large as a prime example, he was dying, but they did the test on him anyway, because, that’s, apparently, what they have to do.
Surely if somebody gets knocked down and killed by a bus but has tested positive for COVID-19 within the last 28 days it's ridiculous to include them in the COVID-19 deaths. People are booking tests and not taking them but still getting a positive result. I'm not saying that the figures are dramatically wrong but why can't people be a bit more accurate?
People test positive for COVID-19 without having any symptoms. I know they could still pass it on but I would prefer to see statistics for people who are seriously ill from COVID-19 and people who died from COVID-19. ICU patients are a good statistic. Too many other statistics dont have sufficient meaning. I know somebody who had difficulty breathing - he could still breath - and he was asked if he wanted to go to hospital but he wouldn't be treated unless it got worse. He preferred to stay at home. He was not tested for COVID-19. This was at the start of the pandemic when they were less eager to test. I'm in favour of keeping the economy going including pubs and restaurants but taking sensible measures as much as possible.
You would think that search engines are pretty smart these days, that is until you ask questions that don't fit the narrative. Just tried to find out how many under 65 have died of covid (worded the question in 3 or 4 ways) and what a **** load of irrelevant answers come up on the first page. I did read somewhere that it's less than 300 but wanted to check, seems like you can't.
Just look at the ONS figures, they come out a bit later, but correct anything that possibly be attributed to COVID when it's not. No death certificate for someone run over by a bus will list COVID as a potential cause of death.
"The number of deaths involving COVID-19 registered in England and Wales in the week ending 16 October 2020 (Week 42) was 670 (6.4% of all deaths in that week)" https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26 It doesn't seem to be saying that. "Involving COVID-19" can be open to interpretation. Given how inaccurate previous statistics have been I am wary of relying on a statement that is so open to abuse. My doctor has a statement pinned up on his front door. "From 16/10/20 all blood tests at Nelson Hospital have to be booked in advance and you cannot just turn up." Today I checked the website. It said: "To get a blood test you just use the walk in service." I phoned them up. They said: "It's a walk in service. You can't book an appointment". This is one of many examples of the NHS not being reliable.
As a scuba diver, Covid 19 effects my sport and BSAC the organisation I belong to has published this. It is only part of the full report, but basically means that Covid 19 could result in divers never diving again! This has in fact been the case with one of our fittest divers, who it seems will not only have to give up scuba diving, but the Triathlon, Iron Man and Marathon running he also did/does. "Many of you reading this article will be aware of the cruise ship, the ‘Diamond Princess’ that was carrying 3,711 passengers and crew members and docked in Yokohama Bay, Japan. After some passengers disembarked, the Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare of Japan reported that 712 passengers had tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus and 10 passengers had died. The Self-Defense Forces Central Hospital in Tokyo accepted the passengers who tested positive for the virus on board the ship and an analysis of 104 people who agreed to cooperate with a research medical team has now been published [8]. Computed tomography (CT) scans of the lungs were carried out on all 104 passengers, of whom 76 were asymptomatic with only 28 cases being symptomatic for the disease. Worryingly, 41 of the 76 asymptomatic cases had abnormal CT findings whilst 22 of the 28 symptomatic cases also had abnormal CT findings in the lung fields. These findings included showing areas of lung that were without any signs of the normal alveoli that are normally present in the lungs (the tiny air sacs whose main function is to exchange oxygen from the air with the haemoglobin in the blood and to remove carbon dioxide from the plasma to the air in the lungs). Other areas of the lung showed changes that also indicated that the lung was not functioning properly with regard to gas exchange." Get Covid and the chances are, your lungs will be shot
Apparently, someone rubbed the probe thing against the dogs nose, sent that in and it came back positive for pedigree chum.
Out of interest, did the report mention how many of those who had lung CT scans were or had been smokers ?
As i said previously T cell immunity last as least 6 months hence why some countries have herd immunity already https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nt-in-adults-six-months-after-first-infection
I think if you are seeking an idyll of non servile non stoical citizens you could do worse than the angry plate smashers of Greece. Caveat would be earthquakes hairy women, ****ed economy, rubbish football, rubbish beer, rubbish tv, rubbish music and endemic corruption. I found the moped hire very reasonable when I was in Corfu and the beaches decent enough. Your call Kalman.
