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  1. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    We look ok going forward.

    We have surrendered midfield, I cannot recall one tackle by our so called midfield all half, there is zero protection for the defence. Odowda is poor, poor, poor.

    I know that defence will get the blame, they always do but look at the build up for all 3 goals.

    The 1st goal throughout the build nobody but nobody got within 3 metres of any of their players on the ball, until Paterson managed to get within 2 metres in what I assume he believes is closing down.

    The 2nd goal we never got within 3 metres again during the build up, until the ball came off of Kalas.

    The 3rd goal the long ball came from a player who probably never had a City player within 5 metres of him.

    The midfield is worse than last IMHO so far.
     
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  2. wizered

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    Half-time player ratings
    Bentley - 6

    Vyner - 4

    Kalas - 5

    Moore - 5

    Hunt - 7

    Brunt - 4

    Paterson - 7

    O’Dowda - 6

    Dasilva - 5

    Wells - 5

    Martin - 6
     
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  3. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Paterson 7?, he had 1 good shot leading to the goal and then nothing.

    Odowda 6?, at least Paterson did one positive thing, what has ODowda done so far?
     
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    Simply men against boys.
    Walk in the park for the canaries sadly
     
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    Anybody like to tell me why Wells get the spot kick missed 6 in 9.

    what does O’Dowda bring to the table
    Wells confidence looks shot.
    Vyner and Moore not championship standard.
     
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    Funny how we all see the game differently. Thought O’Dowda was ok, Vyner played well and so did Martin.
    We got torn to shreds first 15 mins, much better after we scored....Thought Wells had a poor game from his standards...
    The class of Norwich compared was there for all to see, but we had our chances, Great save from Cruel, Martin hitting the post with a wonder shot and Wells missing the pen.....
    IMO, we are so much better when closing teams down quickly rather than letting them have possession, thought some of our passing was better, but our defence left standing when playing through us..
    TBH, I thought once Norwich scored their 2nd, we were gonna get a roasting, but we did well not to cave in... made a game of it and with a bit of good fortune could have got something out of the game.. Things for Dean to work on..
     
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    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    you clearly watched a different game to me.
    That was another shocking performance showing us for what we are a average championship side who will do well to finish mid table.
     
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  9. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I actually think, Norwich are the best side we've played all season (of what I've seen).. IMO, it's the best we've played since the Forest game....but hey what do I know!!
     
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    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    No excuses we were well and truly thumped, it's no excuse, we have a squad system but it's worth remembering 6 of our senior players are unavailable through injury, onward to Tuesday and Huddersfield and maybe some new faces.
     
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    Kalas must have nightmares playing between Moore and Vyner.
    The pundits were saying great movement from Puki, my ass, terrible marking by Vyner and Moore for all 3 goals.
    We looked better in a back 4 but Norwich being 3-1 up might have something to do with that.
    And Wells needs a pineapple where sun doesn't shine.
     
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    Aptly described as men against boys and Holden is panicking. Obviously it doesn’t help when your top striker looks as though he couldn’t score in a brothel.

    Norwich like our last 4 opponents have sussed us out, press us high in midfield and we are easy to beat, but we helped them today by surrendering midfield.

    Bentley 8 Our man of the match, single handedly kept the score respectable.

    Hunt 5 Ok going forward put poor defensively, nothing we never knew.

    Vyner 6 Another plus today, looks better each game.

    Kalas 5 Lost their striker for the 3rd goal, but to be fair to him the long ball came from a player, who never had a red shirt within 5 metres of him.

    Moore 5 Didn’t do a lot wrong.

    DaSilva 6 Tried his best and rescued us quite a few times.

    ODowda 3 Sorry don’t see what he offers us at all, makes an already weak midfield look weaker.

    Brunt 5 He wasn’t great, but I am going to defend him, because, whenever he or Bakinson have to play with Paterson, ODowda or Weimann, they end up doing the midfield work for all of them.

    Paterson 4 Did well for the goal, but yet again wasteful and another midfield passenger, we know what he is capable of offensively, but no good in a midfield that has been sussed out and needs to get involved in trench warfare.

    Martin 7 Quality as usual, but wasted because his strike partner is/has been poor.

    Wells 2 He is massively off form, apart from a shot (that went wide) never looked like scoring, I know he scored his last penalty, but I had zero confidence that he would score.



    Yes we have injuries, but I think he needs to leave Paterson and certainly ODowda out now and somehow beef up that midfield, it is powder puff, as bad if not worse than last season.



    We could try a back 4 and play Vyner or Rowe in midfield, it cannot be left untouched, sadly I cannot see wher
     
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  13. Jiffie

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    I think you need to look again.

    The first goal, from well inside their half, they built up and nobody but nobody got within 3 metres of their build up play, until Paterson got within 2 metres of one of their players, obviously in his book that is getting tight to your man, nothing to do with the defence the damage was done in the build up.

    The 2nd goal was just as bad again nobody within 3 metres throughout the build up, until the ball was deflected off of Kalas.

    The third goal from his own half their player hit a long ball, with none of our players within 5 metres of him and Kalas was the wrong side of his man and DaSilva was ball watching, for each of the 3 goals the damage was done in the build up, because our crappy midfield decided today was a day to keep the 2 metre rule + 1 and even + 3.
     
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    'Halloween defensive horror show' - Bristol City player ratings after loss to Norwich City
    Our City reporter's take from Ashton Gate.

    Dan Bentley - 6
    Great save to deny Buendia around the 40 minute mark to stop the away side racing into a 1-3 lead. But could do little about the three goals that flew past him, well placed low to his feet but just to the side of him. Another good save late on to deny Placheta. Fumbled a late corner though before repelling Buendia.

    Zak Vyner - 5
    Lost Pukki after just five minutes as Stipermann's unhindered pass was fizzed in to the Canaries no.22, who made no mistake. Part of a horror show in defence, aptly on 31 October. Much better after the break where his pace was used well to stop counters.

    Tomas Kalas - 6
    The captain was undone by a long ball just before the break as Buendia evaded him and slotted past Bentley rushing out. Lost Pukki at other times too, though he won the penalty and then stopped Buendia scoring as he cleared off the line in the second half.

    Taylor Moore - 5
    Again on the left side of the back three but at fault for the Canaries' second goal as Pukki escaped from him and scored with his deflected shot past Bentley. Made some good interceptions in the second half however before coming off for Bakinson.

    Jack Hunt - 7
    With four of City's back five (including the wing-backs) driftiing to cover Norwich's front three, there was plenty of room for Hunt to attack in the first half. And his nip into the box to convert brought the Robins back into the game.

    Callum O'Dowda - 7
    Ran hard through the middle and Norwich struggled to stop him at times. His low cross just after the hour mark came from good play involving Hunt, while he drew a yellow card from Gibson with another run at the side in yellow.

    Chris Brunt - 5
    Unfortunately his lack of athleticism in the middle made him a passenger at times in the first half. Yes, several nice lateral passes out to the full-backs but with Stiepermann having the freedom of the South West to play into Pukki, it balanced out. Better after the break with several important tackles to break up play.

    Jamie Paterson - 6
    Almost lost the ball in a bad area in the first minutes but then showed his class to bring the Robins into the game as he chipped to the back post for Hunt to crash in. Created the most chances in the game, statistically, by far.

    Jay Dasilva - 5
    Too quiet early on but had more space to raid forward in the second half. Lost the ball in a dangerous area with a poor touch on 70 minutes and struggled to find his best form.

    Nahki Wells - 5
    Two good chances to score in the first half but couldn't take either, in stark contrast to Norwich's spearhead. And more after the break as he volleyed a free-kick straight at Krul, before firing a penalty over the bar with 15 minutes to go. Getting the chances, just not converting.

    Chris Martin - 6
    May have had a penalty early on - though it would have been a soft one - and got even closer to his first league club for City when he smashed the post from 25 yards late on.

    Substitutions
    Tyreeq Bakinson (for Moore, 57') - 6

    Added some ballast in central midfield but unable to add any real quality late on.

    Antoine Semenyo (for Brunt, 75') - n/a
    Played wide right for the final 10 minutes.

    Famara Diedhiou (for Wells, 78') - n/a
    A late showing but a chance to score in the final minutes was ruined by a poor touch.
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport...lloween-defensive-horror-show-bristol-4657679
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    You have Hunt going forward decent but I think his distribution is poor, rarely looks up when passing or crossing..
     
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  16. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Our passing is poor in the whole team, our crossing is poor and our free kicks are diabolical.

    Hunt fits in well.
     
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    Jiffie
    I respectfully, but totally, disagree.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    I must have missed something, apparently our midfield was ok, according Mcboatface then.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Fine but the evidence is there for all to see, I will be happy to see where one of our midfielders got closer than my estimations during the build up to all 3 of their goals.

    We cannot ignore the build up to goals and then solely blame a defender or goalkeeper for every goal conceded, it's obvious that if teams skip through our midfield unmolested almost at will, eventually there will be goals.
     
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    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Norwich had the look to me of a team highly confident in the knowledge that they could outscore us, hence the reason they were so open throughout the game.
     
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