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Parkinson should resign or be sacked

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Lewberry Pie, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. Nordic

    Nordic Well-Known Member

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    We just don't score enough goals to have a chance of going up. His style of play switched me off last season and he is no better this time around, yet has had plenty of time to blend in youth/mix it up inc the new players he brought in.

    When he does mix it up, its coz hes been forced into it and then we start playing. Says it all, to me.
     
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  2. Iansun

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    We won't get promoted with him incharge
     
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  3. Jack Ford

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    Don't think it would make too much difference if Parky got the boot. Get Donald out 1st then start the rebuild. otherwise we will continue to go round in circles.

    It really would be good to get some managerial stability
     
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  4. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I'd be worried if we sacked him now. Sacking him now = no imminent takeover.
     
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  5. Lewberry Pie

    Lewberry Pie Well-Known Member

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    He's not gonna get sacked after 2 bad results but for me it's more the fact he's just kept going down the path previous managers have, short term the only priority.

    Same mistakes over and over again.
     
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  6. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    I'm not for us changing manager again after a relatively short time but PP is not helping himself.
    Jack Ross was sacked cos he got more and more defensive and negative in his line ups and game plan and this guy is doing exactly the same.
    Is that because of the squad both managers have available that they are making sure we don't get beat and accepting winning 1-0 and each game being very tight is ok.
    if we change is the new manager suddenly going to give the fans expansive attacking open play with these same players, certainly he would get the fans behind him if he was brave enough to give it a go, even if the results didn't instantly turn around, but can this squad deliver.
    we have good on the ball players but we need to find a midfielder who go can slot in the killer pass instead of down the wings and hoping someone gets on the end of it.
    Graham and Grigg have it in them to get on the end of these through balls and it would give us an alternative pattern of play instead of the one dimensional stuff PP is playing now.
    I've no idea who we could bring in as manager but surely it's worth a go as I really feel Parkinson has lost the dressing room to add to his problems.
     
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  7. Nacho

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    Whoever the next manager is it needs to be someone with bulletproof confidence in themselves and their methods. Ross went into his shell eventually (probably too inexperienced for the size of the job, good manager imo) and Parky never really left it.

    Anyone else with the shadow of mediocrity, failure or inexperience cast over them would be a bad move. We need a Di Canio or a Keane, not for the discipline this time but for their broad shoulders and the self belief they radiate. Tactics wise they don't have to be a genius by any means.
     
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    Excellent post.

    I said it when Ross was in charge, and it's the same now - we're too easy to set up against. Literally everything comes down the flanks, and on Tuesday with O9 absent, it was limited to the left flank. We've got to mix it up and keep other teams guessing what we're gonna do next.

    We've got too many midfield plodders and not enough guile. We need someone who can thread passes for our strikers to run on to.

    Not just that, I've only ever seen O9 (when he played in midfield) making runs beyond the striker, for the ball over the top. No one else does it. Whether they are incapable of doing it or are being discouraged from doing so by the management, is open to debate.
     
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  10. rooch 3

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    Oh man how would I feel if I found he was coming back to us always liked the bloke and thought he was treated **** when he was with us.
     
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  11. Royaldragon

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    One way or the other I think Parky will be gone within a fortnight.
     
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  12. Blond Bombshell

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    I'd settle for today
     
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  13. Lewberry Pie

    Lewberry Pie Well-Known Member

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    Op is full of **** once again
     
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  14. polyphemus

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    History MAY be a good teacher.

    A mantra, much favoured, in my day, by teachers of selling techniques was, ----
    'If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got''

    Childish perhaps, but it has some logic behind it.

    I've been browsing at our Managerial stats, just out of curiosity.
    These show that since 1945 SAFC has had 30 managers,
    (I ignored all 'caretakers' for this exercise).
    Then I gave each a rating based in part on my memory and in part on their stats.
    I ignorerd Bill Murray and Phil Parkinson. One was the incumbant and the other is the current occupier.
    I came up with---
    Eight improved the Team.
    Nine had a neutral effect.
    Eleven had a negative impact.

    These rating were by definition somewhat subjective.

    These figures say to me that changing Manager is no guarantee of making things better.
    It has a higher chance of making things worse.

    Yet as you rightly say ----
    QUOTE="MrRAWhite, post: 14256014, member: 1000795"]It is like Groundhog day on here when we have a couple of bad results.[/QUOTE]
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  17. Mad Dog

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    I’d still sack him. Our attacking threat is absolutely shocking and he’s refusing to change anything. We have a perfectly good striker banging them in for the under 23’s who he is over looking for someone like Grigg who he refuses to bring off the bench for 5 minutes. We got lucky yesterday, on another day we would have been well beaten. Bizarre manager.
     
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