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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I seem to remember a bad tempered share struggle at Arsenal.

    As long as Donald has no real influence he can have his shares imo.

    If a new owner gets us moving Donald will be irrelevant.
     
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  2. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    I am afraid that if it were me buying the club and I didn't have overall control with other shareholders hanging on to their share allocation, I wouldn't go ahead on the premise that I could buy their shares at a later date..
     
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  3. Mackem49000

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    Donald can have minimal shares I'm not bothered about that as long as he has no control.. Would prefer him gone though.
     
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  4. Dorset

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    I love a good conspiracy theory. You may be spot on mate
     
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  5. Alebeac

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    Absolutely, if the new guy buys 51% of the shares it's a takeover.
     
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  6. Dorset

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    This is my position too. Hope they/he/she have deep pockets and long arms
     
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  7. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    You're 100% right, the only difference between 1% and 49% is the amount of potential dividend paid out...but when it comes to voting rites....he would have a big fat zero
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    But not clown shoes ;)
     
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  9. Sinner

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    I have a bit of a problem with the extent of anti Donald sentiment. This is because I have strong Oxford links going back to the late 70s and been to loads of their games. My daughter curren
    tly at uni there so links continue.

    My point is I have friends who know Donald and know Methven, as separate entities.

    They all say the same thing. Donald is a sound bloke, got a lot of integrity and loves his football. They are frankly incredulous at some the stuff posted on social media, con man etc.

    They see Methven pretty much as we do but apparently he has great connections.

    I want him gone but wish we could tone down the rhetoric. He is not the devil incarnate.
     
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  10. MLE1

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    The devil incarnate usually has a voice
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe FPP would accept other investment coming into the club with their 'loan' outstanding.

    Which means it would have to be repaid before someone else could invest/buy.

    If this isn't 'FPP', trying to force the issue with Donald, I'll be truly surprised.

    Whatever the case Donald should see the light and accept his presence is poison.
     
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  12. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    He is an opportunist and is hanging around to make profit out of our club but it is undeserved because he has done a terrible job. His ego won’t allow that thought. I’m sure he is a nice enough man in many ways as most people are but his greed and ego are holding back the club I love. Even in this deal It appears. He needs to be gone and it’s a piss take that we suffer while he tries to recoup potential losses that are generally a result of his own bad practice.We need someone better with a 5 year plan to invest not a plan to cut profit and run. It was the best thing for Donald that always mattered.
     
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  13. Sadlad

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    The spineless gimp is hanging on by his fingertips, the sooner someone stamps on them the better for Sunderland Football Club.
     
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  14. E.T. Fairfax

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    Thing is, he was a midgies knacker away from doing the job he came to do. His two major cock ups were not tying Maja down (may have been out of his hands), and blowing all his wad on Grigg (which at the time seemed like an acceptable risk as his guaranteed goals at this level would have seen us promoted). Most have turned against him because of the takeover fiasco, particularly from last year when it seemed certain he was leaving us in more than capable hands. He's being blamed for it all going tits up, moving the goalposts, saying the wrong things. Whether this is right or wrong, it doesnt matter, the longer he stays the longer we stay in League 1. Needs to leave asap.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    That's all fair enough imo.

    I'm sure the fly doesn't want to spoil the ointment but it's presence does just that.

    SAFC is Donald's biggest interest but he's doing nothing to protect it by staying.

    If he clung on indefinitely he really could lose everything. The club is once again out of the promotion places but, this time, losing money rapidly with no end in sight.

    If this situation continues Donald will eventually have to hand over the club to the current biggest investors.

    He's out of his depth and needs to get out as soon as possible.
     
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  16. wearside wanderer II

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    luvly mate, yet he accuses safc of kidnap.
    I’ll make my own mind up about Donald and as far as I can see he is a lying thieving chancer.
     
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  17. Blond Bombshell

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    This.
     
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  18. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    The shame on our club being associated with this....
     
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  19. Billy Batts

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    He's obviously doesn't know his football that well if he forks out 3 to 4m pound on Will Grigg, despite everybody else at the club telling him not to.
     
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    I'll be honest I don't like the language used against Madrox and I think they are decent blokes who just haven't delivered on the pitch.

    I think some of the campaigns against them have been well out of order. Especially Chris Witherspoon who has, in my opinion, been shocking.

    Do I want them to go - yes. Purely because I don't think they have or will deliver on the pitch, they employ the wrong people etc.

    Do I believe they were stealing the clubs money etc - no I don't, I've said consistently that the 'missing money' was going to be put back in on promotion to championship as a war chest. Again that was Chris who inappropriately influenced the narrative to them filtering off the clubs money and creating hatred. He was completely wrong on many levels in my opinion.

    Do I hate them - absolutely not.

    It's all about the football in my opinion nothing else, and they haven't delivered.
     
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