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Match Day Thread Bristol City V Swansea City

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  1. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    Bristol City v Swansea City
    Predicted Bristol City team (3-5-2): Bentley; Vyner, Moore, Kalas; Hunt, Weimann, Bakinson, Paterson, O'Dowda/Dasilva; Wells, Martin
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/expected-bristol-city-team-few-4637180

    Bristol City Preview ~ https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/mansionbet-match-preview-swansea-city/
    Swansea City Preview ~ https://www.swanseacity.com/news/preview-bristol-city-v-swansea-city-0


    The Gaffer ~ https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/holden-were-ready-to-move-on/
    The Gaffer ~ https://www.swanseacity.com/news/steve-cooper-support-we-have-such-hard-times-real-motivation


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  2. AshtonRed

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    With games coming thick & fast, we should start to introduce players into the starting line up, we should have done it against Boro and looked jaded because we didn’t. I don’t know how fit players are but they’ll never get match fit if they don’t play matches. Deans in danger of becoming the exact opposite to lee and his Tombola, it will be interesting to see Today’s line up.
     
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  3. Jiffie

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    5 changes, I have to say Weimann and Paterson IMHO are very lucky to keep their places, let's hope that they give Brunt far more support than that given to Bakinson in the last game and that goes for the younger fitter wing backs as well.
     
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    Same formation but freshened up-Concern about defensive aspect of midfield
     
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    We are competing ok in midfield, but their is an obvious lack of creativity in midfield, Weimann has given us another 45 minutes which to me screams that he is not a midfielder, Paterson has being annoying a couple of good moments but incredibly wasteful with his end product. Brunt is an obvious calming quality midfielder.

    To much faggoting around at the back and in midfield and then we run out of ideas and hit long hopeful balls.

    The wing backs especially DaSilva have kept their wing backs relatively quiet. Taylor Moore got away with another shocking pass on the halfway line, bailed out by Vyner I believe, Vyner himself was far too weak on the edge of our box in another falling asleep moment and had to be bailed out by a later handball.

    Semyeno looks a handful but needs to improve his first touch.
     
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    Paterson trying to be too clever in the wrong area of the pitch, but I bet he won't get the same stick as Moore. 0-1 down.
     
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    We are way too slow and pedestrian in our build up, seen enough of Sessegnon, too many not performing
     
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    We have such a poor record at home and unless we change that mindset we are heading for another year of mediocrity.
     
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    Close game, another point against good opposition.
     
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    I’m sorry Dean but the 1st half at Barnsley, Tuesday night and today, we looked as poor as we were last season and why? because the midfield is failing once more.

    Weimann has showed enough to prove that he is not a midfielder and never will be, Paterson today was shocking, I lost count of how many times he gave away the ball, especially in dangerous positions, one of which by trying to be over cocky cost us a goal, I will say again when our midfield is poor and not covering for Patersons lack of tackling and tracking back, it truly is like playing with 10 players, Brunt tried manfully but was not supported in any way shape or form by either Weimann or Paterson.

    So I think it’s about time for somebody at the club to come clean about the injuries to Williams and Walsh, we have been told next to nothing about why these injuries are taking so long to heal. I have to say if reports that we accepted 200k for Morrell, whilst there seems to be no end in sight to the Williams and Walsh injuries, it is beginning to look like a very short sighted decision, we could have held off until January.

    Bentley 6 Had little to do, which sort of proves the back 3 played well enough.

    Vyner 6 Went to sleep once and lucky to get away with it, but generally played well.

    Kalas 8 Our best player.

    Moore 6 Made one poor pass that almost resulted in a goal, but solid enough.

    Sessegnon 5 Patchy performance at best.

    DaSilva 6 We have missed him, need to get him fully fit.

    Paterson 4 Shocking for all the reasons above.

    Weimann 4 Running around a lot is not good enough anymore.

    Brunt 6 Cool head and only midfielder on display for us.

    Martin 5 No supply all game.

    Semyeno 5 Equally no supply but kept going.

    A word about Diedhiou he didn’t look so bad today, looked up for it.

    To be honest I will take a point today because I don’t think we deserved it, we created nothing to write home about, 4 shots on target (all piss weak) but better than the zero of the other night and the penalty was debatable at best. And to be fair to Holden he did attempt to go for it.

    But if we cannot get our specialist midfielders back then we will struggle, I think Bakinson and Brunt will be an improvement, I would drop Weimann and Paterson and play Martin in the number 10 role, with Semyeno and Wells up top.
     
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    For years we have heard the cry for a more solid midfield and yet here we go again bemoaning the fact about how poor we are in that specific area of the pitch. Surely the midfield is the heart of the team and it just makes me ask how we can keep failing to shore up that area and then say we want to be more competitive? I question some of the attitudes of the players and some of those who can't meet the required expectations should be shipped out. Like many others I liked the way we started the season but the gloss has been slightly rubbed of the feel good mantra and I wonder if we have enough footballing nous around the club to right the slightly tilting ship? The issues that will undoubtedly raise their ugly heads have been hanging around our necks season after season and we need to up our ante if we want to exorcise the historical ghosts.
     
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    Negatives -,poor defending for Swansea goal,
    too slow going forward allowing Swans to regroup,
    play 80% of our game in our own half giving ball away too easily.
    Martin looked tired.
    Positives - Brunt and Semenyo played well.
    Kept going to earn a drew
     
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    The problem is we have 'shored' up midfield, but 2 players one a new signing and the other a star performer last season in league 1 haven't kicked a ball for us in anger and there has been no proper explanation.

    Weimann started off the season ok but sadly after the first 4 games we have been 'worked out' pressurise us in midfield and it will not only highlight how lacking in midfield technique Weimann is, the knock on is that it renders Paterson nothing short of a passenger because he cannot tackle or track back and when we under pressure in midfield we need all of them fighting, not one manfully trying his best, one running around a lot and the other not contributing to the battle, in short we have become easy to play against, the only saving grace is the keeper and defence look solid and we are not shipping loads of goals, but that will be the next problem if we don't sort the midfield out.

    Also I assumed that the sale of Morrell meant the imminent fitness of Williams and Walsh but that does not look the case anymore, so the sale of Morrell looks incredibly short sighted.
     
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    Poor defending?

    Paterson gave a silly 2 metre pass directly to their player, when we were looking to break, because he was trying to be to cocky, he wasn't even under pressure, it had absolutely nothing to do with defending and everything to do with a shocking pass and a terrific finish, 2 things here 1. if Paterson had scored that goal, some people would have been telling us how great he is and 2. Had Taylor Moore given the ball away again in that area people would be on his back.

    Their goal was down to Paterson and even Tinnion thought so.
     
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    I think we look really solid under Holden. We don't look like we are going to concede loads under him and its just individual errors that cost us in the last 2 game. At the moment it doesn't look like we will score loads either but that may come.
     
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    I think you are correct but if Williams and Walsh are not going to be fit for a while, then we have to play specialist midfielders and not Weimann and probably not Paterson at the moment, until we can hold our own in midfield battles and that has been a struggle in the last 4 games to be honest.
     
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    I agree defending starts upfront but Lowe was left unmarked in the box
     
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    Agree to disagree, Paterson was at fault it was a careless mistake, he had an easy pass but tried to be clever and ballsed up a 2 metre pass, we were looking to break, which meant that the wing backs were out of position because Paterson stupidity. If he was unmarked that is the reason.

    Defenders are often blamed for the failings of others, because a lot of people only see the goal in isolation, as I said had that been Taylor Moore and not Paterson, a lot of people would be all over him.
     
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