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Off Topic ENSLAVED .. Samuel L Jackson

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by realred1952, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    watched the first part last night … a very balanced look at the slave trade. The one thing that stood out was just how little Britain was actually involved "in the big / wider picture" They showed Bristol .. and the impact he had on our fine city. They showed his majestic statue , old pictures of the water front, and all the familiar places carrying his name. A lot of them from the fund he left behind and is still being managed... I may add!
    It started quite a while before Britain got involved, and carried on considerably [ maybe as long as 200 years ] after Britain ceased, the vast majority of the slaves finished up in south America, Brazil Guyana etc…
    They dug out shipping records and highlighted the fact the British navy actually took on Spanish slave ships as late as 1800's? Cant wait to watch second part, … will then watch both again....
     
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    You should show it to the ****ers pulling down statues and wanting to erase Bristols and the UK's history.
     
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    seen 2 episodes now and the information being delivered is truly amazing … one has to ask who is the most guilty!
    SLJ chatting to the journalist woman, stated " trading was primarily ivory and other resources and had been going on for quite a while before selling of Africans for enslavement began. The perpetrators were the Dutch Spanish, Portugese, French British and of course the Africans! [ self inflicted problem then! I ask? ] WHO? brought people from hundreds of miles away to sell into slavery!.... ! …. similar comment made on another couple of different clips with different people telling the story/history.
    I believe they stated [ will watch again] in around 400 years, 12 million were enslaved of which 2 million lost their lives before or within a day or so of reaching the America's .. majority went to S. America mostly by Spanish ships?
    there is a part 3 so will be very interesting when that unfolds more of the history behind this unsavoury trade.
     
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    the people involved with the demonstration and demise of Edward Colston statue were very few Bristolians the vast majority came from miles away
    all this s**** is being driven by less than 0 .4% of the population of Bristol …..
     
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    I have recorded the first 2, and watched the first. I thought it was a bit "jumpy" so I will record it all then watch in one long sequence. I have a habit with documentaries of taking notes! then I can freeze the screen and refer. There seems to be more than 1 story line, Sam being one and history another.
    Would concur, it seems to be a fair and wide examination of the events, from the first hour I have learned a couple of things. One thing I have learned is Bristol was, possibly, really only a small part of it, and a late participant apparently.
     
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    Whilst it’s important to acknowledge our participation in that vile trade, it’s also important to recognise that we were one of the first of the ‘developed’ nations to outlaw it.
    I also believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that although racism and prejudice against people of colour was definitely widespread and ingrained in our national psyche (and still is to a lesser extent), it was never actually British state policy, unlike for example the US, South Africa and Australia, where people of colour were discriminated against by LAW.
     
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    last nights episode 3 of 4 was "weakest " so far but still very informative. The northern states were "anti slavery?" and escape to Canada was very common. Joining the northern army against the south "guaranteed freedom! in fact one slave stole a southern ship, turned it over the North got a reward and went back to buy the house of the family that enslaved him … then looked after the previous owners wife till she died!
    putting the bits together you wonder where it all went wrong … 100's of 000's of black people have made it [from enslaved family lines] and a few 000's are causing grief [ crime and bad acts ] I read somewhere that a couple of west Africa and east Africa nations have, not through slavery, in the past 70 years become the cause of concern amongst black people ….
     
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