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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Jul 6, 2018.

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  1. Tobes

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    Only they were able to field a team, their Chairman confirmed this before the game was cancelled on Tuesday. It was PHE who said they couldn’t play the game based on the number of positives they’d had in the squad.

    They could have sorted this out and played this game at a future date.

    Orients Chairman also said that they were forecasting to lose about £1.5m from COVID (this was before Johnson’s announcement btw) and the £150k profit they’d have made from this televised game would have therefore covered 10% of these losses. It was massive for them, and also had the possibility that they’d progress further.
     
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  2. astro

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    My guess is because PL teams are constantly testing everyone so getting 2 positives means you just isolate those people.

    If Orient are only doing infrequent tests on a selection of staff and then lots of positives come back you have to assume there are more positives that aren't discovered. We'd need to know how many tests were done and how many were positive.
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

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    It's not just about positive tests, it's the inability to field a team because of positive tests. Games can go ahead if players from clubs test positive we know this because we had a positive test but the game went ahead. The infected person self isolated to keep everyone else safe.

    If PHE say there's a danger in going ahead then that is also covered in the rules. It amounts to the same thing. They can't field a team because of the amount of infections.

    It's a real shame for the club. Any comments about not testing or revealing results is just wrong.
     
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  4. Tobes

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    They did though.
     
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  5. astro

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    Did the chairman distinguish between fielding a team of players who had negative tests, or just players who hadn't been tested and shown to be positive yet?

    Based on his comments on testing I wouldn't give him any benefit of doubt. So if a public health body says shut them down, shut them down.
     
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  6. johnsonsbaby

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    Read my edit.
     
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    Did he actually say that though? All I can see is a quote saying "This is an incentive not to test and is bad for football and bad for health and safety,"
    He doesn't state that his club will deliberately avoid testing in future, just the neutral "it is an incentive".
    And he may well be right.
    On a side-note, apparently Spuds paid for the tests, so they probably rigged the results to avoid a potential banana-skin.
    Allegedly.
    <whistle>
     
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  8. saintKlopp

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    The rules are there so everyone knew where they stood - but that doesn't mean we can't say we disagree with those rules.
    As Tobes says there should be enough time to rearrange this and the next fixture, so it still seems harsh to me.
     
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    If the spuds had been knocked out of Europe last night i reckon they would of played it tues with the winners playing Chelsea on thurs.

    Once spurs went through it was always gonna be a bye as there is no spare mdweek to fit any delayed tie in at all
     
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  10. saintKlopp

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    There are two international breaks before December, which as far as I'm concerned are neither use nor ornament so they could have played then perhaps?
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

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    I feel like you can never use fixture congestion as a reason not to play the match given they set a precedent last season with us and no one seemed overly fussed by it.
     
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    Some were; they said we were disrespecting the Cup by playing kids...
     
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  13. astro

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    That was a direct quote from the BBC article.

    "If I was doing this again I would not do the testing," Orient chairman Nigel Travis told BBC Radio 5 Live.

    He's effectively admitted he'd put out an infected team to make money.
     
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  14. Solid_Air 2

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    not allowed to by FIFA iirc .
     
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  15. saintKlopp

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    They make the rules, they could change 'em. Extenuating circumstances and all that...
     
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  16. Solid_Air 2

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    for a LC game never in a million years as they have no "stake" in it .
     
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    Yeah - I know they won't, I'm just saying they could. Such rules are arbitrary and they make them so they could change them if they wanted.
    It's just my opinion that these international breaks are an impediment to the real game and dropping everything for them annoys me.
     
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  18. Solid_Air 2

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    they really need to to start by having pre qualifying for international competitions for the likes of Andorra , Gibraltar etc to reduce the number of games .
     
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    I’m having stake tonight. With chips, peas mushrooms and onion rings. <cheers>
     
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  20. saintKlopp

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    I've said before that I'd be quite happy to see mid-season internationals done away with altogether - for the stronger nations at least.
    They could all get together a couple of weeks before any major tournament in the close season and just get on with it. It would be the same for everyone, and they're all top players so it shouldn't take them long to sort themselves out.
    For me, too much importance is attached to nationalistic ideals which I really don't care about. Sacrificing chunks of the club season just to give us a better chance to put one over on Johnny Foreigner doesn't do it for me. I'm not very partisan in that regard.
     
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