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  1. Delusional Full Stop

    Delusional Full Stop Here to serve all your counselling needs.
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    Probably could but how long does it take?
     
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  2. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

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    310 miles. I drive slightly fast so I can get 250 miles, no problem. An hour, but I'm never at zero to full. I might take 25% to get me home (you only need enough charge to get you home then its on charge every night while you sleep). 25% takes 10 minutes or so as the charger is quicker the less fuel you have. It's only from 80% upwards where it becomes a problem and it slows down.
     
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  3. Maximin Effort

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    I think the issues are going to arise from the power grid. For example there are already thoughts about turning off car chargers during high demand:
    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/elect...-right-switch-electric-cars-charging-home?amp
    Get more electric cars and that demand may be overnight when everyone is charging.

    Also they electric car doesn't appear to become better for the environment until after 50000 miles has been driven in it according to Polestar:
    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/...tric-cars-polestar-data-shows-ice-trailing-ev

    So good for oil consumption, not as good as I though on CO2.
     
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  4. General Lee Speaking

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    I use the 3 pin plug and only get 2.6 kwph at home which is slow it would take 28 hours to fill but an electric charger at home would give you at least 11 kwph which would fill your car in under 7 hours. Of course I'm never at zero so the filling times are never this long.
     
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  5. Delusional Full Stop

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    Daft question, I know, but do you have an outside charging point or does it come through a window? If latter what does your house insurer think?

    Could probably manage 250 miles but once or twice a year that would be an issue on my longer hauls usually to Manchester and back That it would be an issue. Distance is about 155 miles and then again back but I also like to drive shall we say more quickly on such trips.

    If they got it up to about 500 miles per “tank” then I would probably seriously look but knowing my luck the free charging in towns would probably have stopped by then.
     
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  6. General Lee Speaking

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    We'll be fine. Energy consumption will grow as the demand does.
     
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    how you keeping fella.. hope you're well
     
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  8. General Lee Speaking

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    You could do it no bother. Just stop in the highway somewhere once for 10 minutes and its done. You honestly don't need 500 miles and most cars will take 300 and cap it there. You need to slightly change your way of thinking when thinking about filling up. It doesn't need to be full,just enough to get you home. I'm going to stop if I'm on the road for over 4 hours anyway and it'll be full when I take off again.
     
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    Mostly back to normal, yes.
     
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    I have an extension lead underneath my garage door, so I haven't spent anything. I could get one put outside if I needed it, or upgrade to an a electric charger. Not free, but managable costs.
     
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    When I was working at Nissan the other month
    The guy in the battery shop told me that they have 500 mile battery technology
    They just want people to buy up the 300mile battery cars first
     
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    <laugh>.....must have been a nice day, I've got the roof down.
     
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  13. General Lee Speaking

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    But people don't need a 500 mile battery. You going to drive for over 7 hours? I really don't think anyone is that daft. Your going to have break at around 4 hours, and hey presto its charged again. They aren't putting in 500 batteries because they aren't needed.
     
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    The electric companies will be rubbing their hands once this really takes off.
     
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    I'm going pay attention to 'Battery Day' on Tuesday for Tesla. Possibly some quite radical stuff being announced. Tesla are 5-10 years ahead of everyone else so, yes, they are definitely rubbing their hands together. While they were rubbing their hands together at all the ICE cars they were selling little old Tesla were mastering the electric car. They'll get cheaper and cheaper and become affordable to the masses. Christ, I've not even got to the £4.50 charge cost (for 300 miles), no MOTs, drives like a beauty, 3.2secs 0-60, or the car computer that is learning to drive itself yet.
     
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    I actually cannot wait to have an electric car. No more fumes or trips to a petrol station. Bet they will be expensive to fix though.
     
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    I have a cottage in France. There are no electric points on my route in France. In fact the first garage when an electric point is about ten minutes along the road from our cottage.

    We were quoted £900 here to install a charge point at home and almost triple that in France.

    Will need to be much more widespread for me to consider.

    Plus they are overpriced the actual cars
     
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  18. Delusional Full Stop

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    Okay, okay. For you I’ll reduce it to £750 and double that for the cottage in France but you pay the ferry fare.

    Geez, you try to make a living.

    :steam:
     
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    My first car was a Mark II Ford Escort which cost me nothing in 1987. A family friend was told he had to give up driving just a few weeks after I passed my test and very kindly gave it to me as a gift. Only had about 60,000 miles on the clock too. I loved that car. Great insurance too as it cost me about £240 to insure it as a 17yr old with no no claims bonus - them were the days!

    First car I drove was a yellow suzuki jeep which we used to rally drive round my friends farm as teenagers. You just had to remember not to handbrake turn it around hairpins as they had a tendancy to roll if you did.

    My favourite car was a limited edition Vauxhall Vectra sri. It was the model that had Lotus running gear and upgrades. Not the same specs as the later Lotus Carlton but still had a top speed in excess of 140mph and drove like it was on rails. It looked pretty much like a standard family car, so it was always great fun to beat knobheads in Porsches away from the lights when you knew they were going to try and switch lanes and cut you off.

    Worst car I drove was my mum's old mini with brakes like sponges. I remember driving up a fairly steep hill in Clydebank with a police car behind me. A set of lights changed to amber when I still had time to stop so braked in plenty of time only to come to a stop bang in the middle of the junction, well past the red lights. Looked in my mirror and the police were killing themselves laughing. Didn't even pull me over when I had to keep driving to clear the junction
     
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  20. haslam

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    Yes I know that people charge them at their houses and as such they are fine for the daily commute, that isn't the issue (I'm going to get one myself and will also be charging at my house) - that alone will do a great deal of good to reduce emmissions, etc.

    It's more that if someone wants to do a longer journey they need to be able to use fast-chargers at service stations and they usually only have one. They take 30 minutes to charge, not a huge issue unless someone else is already using it. At least in the north-west you wouldn't want to be using one for much other than the standard commute. Until these things change (and they will) families will end up with an electric car as their second car rather than their main one.
     
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