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Mark Hughes: Do the New Rules Hamper Hamilton?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Kyle?, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Kyle?

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/15066906.stm

    No, they don't. This is a pathetic attempt to justify a poor season for britains number 2 driver, i'd expect it from Benson, but for Hughes to write this is ridiculous. These aids are here to help overtaking, how can you possibly be worse at overtaking, now you have some assistance. It just isn't feasible. It's like a premiership player being able to score 40 goals a season, but take away the opponents golakeeper, he can't score 40 any more. it's stupid and impossible. He'd score 40 a game with assistance like that.
     
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    Well wasn't Lewis brought up with the Bridgestones all those years through his lower series career, especially his GP2 stint that helped him break through into McLaren. To be honest it could be a strong reason why Lewis was able to match Alonso during the 07 season because Fernando was used to the Michelin and was a rookie with the Bridgestones.

    I say it's the Pirelli's doing it to him, he cant throw it into the corners anymore as he would like without destroying something on the car included.

    Guess we might have to wait until the turbo era to shake things up for Seb...if it actually does anything.
     
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    What a load of nonsense..

    These are the cream of the crop drivers if they can't get to grips with new rubber within a couple of sessions then they should hang up their helmets and let a more competent drivers have a chance..

    And I said sessions not seasons..

    And for 15 million a year he bloody well better get used to the tyres and quick....
     
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  4. tiphaine1998

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    very good point from hughes !!! i completely agree with him :)
     
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  5. Kyle?

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    ? How is it a good point? The guy is supposed to be an overtaking guru, yet can't overtake when given the tools to help him overtake better. Hughes is a clown.
     
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    ? How is it a good point? The guy is supposed to be an overtaking guru, yet can't overtake when given the tools to help him overtake better. Hughes is a clown.
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    well hes as good as ever at overtaking the difference is that now anybody can overtake with the new regulations... its nomore a skill... :)
     
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  7. Big Ern

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    yes, but most don't keep crashing every other race doing it.
     
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    I think that blogger person is just finding excuses for Hamilton driving like a moron.
     
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    I just read it again because I couldn't believe it the first time.

    What a load of crap
     
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    The tyres may hinder Hamilton's driving style somewhat, but other than that... I don't really buy any of that.

    If anything would be causing him problems, I'd say that the amount of press coverage the he gets has to be a distraction. Even a mediocre race gets analysed to death.

    If he wins, people go mad, if he has a howler, people go mad, if it's a so so performance, it's still dissected. I think people just need to calm down and let him get on with it. When he's out on track he needs to be fully committed without concerns about what the next big Hamilton story might be. This season, there have been times where he hasn't looked fully committed and certainly hasn't been on the top of his game.

    I do wonder if the boot gets put in too hard from time to time and if this has actually starting to have an effect on him. His confidence seems as if it's at a pretty low ebb.
     
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    Oh... I should probably add that, combine that with the dominance of Vettel early on which seemed to make him overly desperate at times, and you could find yourself in not the greatest of positions mentally.
     
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    Fair point. I'm not a fan of Hamilton but it seems he has been so incredibly hyped up by the media, so that, when he has a good result, everyone seems to psyche him up for the next race. And if th result is anything like what we've seen from him this season, then it only gives people an excuse to put pressure on him even more. Rock, Hamilton, Hard Place.
     
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  13. El_Bando

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    what a weak article by Hughes. You cant use rule changes as an excuse as the other 23 drivers have to adapt too.

    Its almost a 'Boo Hoo' cry
     
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  14. tiphaine1998

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    yes, but most don't keep crashing every other race doing it.

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    damn !! maybe because they do not try as hard ?!

    what ths article tries to explain by taking the example of the overtaking is that the new regulations since 2008 tend to hamper attacking quick drivers and favour slower ones...
     
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    This is the root cause I think, his 'wonderkid' title has been usurped by a younger 'wunderkind' and I think it's affected him mentally, and it's coming out in his racing and he's pushing to hard to prove he is the real deal.
     
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  16. Big Ern

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    so what you are saying is that to prove a driver is really trying he has to crash? Well Button hasn't crashed and he's overtaken more cars than anyone, but I guess that means he isn't trying enough.
     
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    I agree with you Bando, how can the regulations hamper a driver.. You drive under the FIA and put up with it.. harsh or not.
    It is part of racing.
     
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    As much as I dislike Lewis Hamilton sometimes (I have problem's with his ego, not with his driving, because he is a cracking racer.) I do feel sorry for him, when other drivers hold a press conference on his driving, some of who are hypocrites such as Webber.
     
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    The analogy that sprung to mind when I read it was the marathon distance being shortened to 25 miles so they could do it in under two hours and then the runners mysteriously start falling over because of it. It makes no sense.
     
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  20. Bob Bobbinz

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    Worst analogy ever ;-)

    To see if the rule have had an effect we need to look at other drivers rather than just Hamilton. Webber has struggled season long with adapting to the tyres, Schumacher isn't a patch on his old self, and Ferrari as a team have had problems adapting to the new tyres. I don't agree that rule changes are the only cause of Hamilton and the above drivers dip in form this season, there are other contributing ones too, but I think it's quite plausible that they are playing a major roll. If we're so quick to praise Vettel for mastering the new tyres, we have to accept that others may be struggling with them.
     
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