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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Beef, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

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    I really hope that’s real. The whole thing is hilarious and I don’t blame him at all for just taking the cash
     
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  2. st_brendy

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    My very limited reading of the cap (which may well be wrong, so I'm happy to be corrected) is that with a club relegated down from the Championship, if they have any players earning more than the average wage for L1, then for the purposes of the cap those players will have their actual wage replaced by the average wage (ie they will still continue to earn their actual wage, but the full amount won't be tested against the cap).

    (But once a player signs a new contract, post relegation, their actual wage is then what is tested.)

    If that is correct, then in theory a relegated club who actually exceed the cap could potentially still sign players - ie if they come under the cap, when replacing their above-average earners with artificial average wages. However, what I don't know if there is anti-avoidance within the rules to prevent such a scenario from arising.
     
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  3. Saintmagic

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    So in theory not a bad idea, see how it works in practice. I just think it will make it very easy for relegated teams to bounce straight back. Will also be hard for Champ teams to offload unwanted players to lower league sides as they would have to take big pay cuts
     
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  4. Libby

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    Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Can't see much issue for clubs relegated from third to fourth tier but those coming from the Championship will obviously be over by quite a stretch.
     
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  5. Saintmagic

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    Well not if they’re just replaced by the average wage for cap purposes. Would assume that the vast majority of players from a relegated Champ team would be over the average under cap rules, so depending on how many players they have a relegated team will still be able to sign players and be under the cap and keep players on far bigger salaries. Completely ruins competitiveness in my opinion, just keeps the long standing L1 clubs where they are
     
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  6. Libby

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    How do they work out the average wage? Don't think they have a 25 man squad as such in the football league do they?

    Works out at about 45 grand a week but I'd be curious to know what they're dividing that by to get the average, unless it's every registered player in the division in which case it will fluctuate window by window.

    Presumably there could still be clubs with large squads whose averages might still be too high for them to make signings without offloading anyone.

    As I say it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
     
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  7. thereisonlyoneno7

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    We can ask Bournemouth this time next year <laugh>
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

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    If you’re a potential buying club though...?
     
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  9. Saintmagic

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    He doesn’t want to leave, has said as much. Happy just earning his 600k a week and playing golf, very similar to another LB who came through our academy in his latter career
     
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  11. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Hmm. I can’t really respect that.
     
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  12. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Yep, gotta say, Bale sounds like a right prick.
     
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  13. Saintmagic

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    Meh I get it. He’s achieved a lot in the game and if his family is settled then I don’t see why he would move, a bit like Bridge at Man City
     
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  14. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    Zidane made it clear to Bale 3 or 4 years ago, that he is not part of his plans, and Bale can't accept it. Anybody else would say, "yep, fair enough", and bugger off somewhere esle. Bale throws his toys out the pram and refuses to leave. Lol.
     
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  15. Saintmagic

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    Or his family is settled and nowhere will match what he is being paid so why leave? The only thing not on his CV which I assume he may want is a PL title, up to him if he thinks that’s worth uprooting his family and halving his salary, seems he doesn’t.
     
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    600k a week or respect...yet another toughie :)
     
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  17. Libby

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    Probably wrong on both sides but they gave him the contract so if he wants to hold them to it then that's ultimately on them.
     
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  18. Saintmagic

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  19. Libby

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    Precisely. I don't hold the contract situation against him as he would have been mad to not take it. It's our (Les') **** up.
     
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  20. Saints Fan4Life

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    Bale was off to China last year till Madrid cancelled it at the last minute so you cant blame it all on bale.
     
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