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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    Odd how keen you are to avoid answering my very simple question. Almost like by answering you would be undermining your whole position. Do you or do you not support every view of every organisation you support?
     
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    Didn’t I ask you a question an hour ago Raving that you have avoided answering ?
     
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  3. Quite Possibly Raving

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    If you have I didn't see it, apologies, and I'd be more than happy to answer it.

    Edit - seen it now and answered.
     
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    In short, yes, but the important thing to then do is ask 'why' and tackle the root cause of the problem, not just assume it's inherent in that culture. By refering to it as a 'black' problem one makes assumptions about the root cause of that problem instead of thinking about it as a class issue, for example, hence the Glasgow parallel.
     
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    No worries.......look back and you’ll see the question.....
     
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    Can someone ask me a question that I can avoid please!
     
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    Very interesting article

    I guess the two key questions are:

    - does this type of approach have a permanent impact on lowering (knife) crime
    - if tried with success in one geographic area, why has it not been used more widely

    We undoubtedly need to be flexible in the approaches adopted to tackle crime. The cost to society is horrendous both in human and economic terms

    Does anyone know the history of the zero tolerance approach adopted some years ago in NYC?
     
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    Would you prefer to race 100m against BOS or wrestle Toni Leistner?
     
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    Can you throw that **** off the nearest high rise please? Add Boswanker into the mix and I'll owe you a pint.

    The biggest change that the VRU bought in was reclassifying knife-crime as a public health issue as well as a policing issue, and enrolling the help of the Scottish NHS, the education system and the social care system. This means they can attack the core issues at source, give the (mainly) young men a sense of worth and community, and helping to break down the boundaries of where each gang operated - you could get stabbed for being one street away from your own turf.
     
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    Lovely weather up here today, bit windy mind.
     
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    Someone ask me another!
     
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    Of course not, but you made that point immediately after denying that defunding the police was a BLM policy. You were hedging, in case you were wrong. And as it turned out, you were wrong and the policy was not something I fabricated. I can't see why you just can't come out and admit it. Pride, may be
     
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    I'd take on BOS no problem





    With a 95m head start obviously.....
     
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    Good luck, still.
     
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    Totally agree, it could also be looked at as a class issue....however the fact cannot be ignored that it is fundamentally an issue within the black community, specifically the young black male community, that gang culture is a massive problem....and the main danger to young black males today (as quoted by Trevor Philips). To ignore the fact is, in my opinion, making the situation worse.
     
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    Is that because he is black?
     
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    Do you wear floral dresses on a night out ?
     
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    You have to sign one - Luke Amos or Luke Young (assuming that they are both the same age!)
     
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    [QUOTE="StortfordQPR, post: 13996929, member: 1014672
    Does anyone know the history of the zero tolerance approach adopted some years ago in NYC?[/QUOTE]

    From my memory 8 think it was very successful
     
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    Well, on our date he had a rather slutty combination of leather mini and thigh boots on
     
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