Terry Out

His bloody press conferences too, especially after Wigan! The whole, we’ll analyse it & get back to the next one.
Not a single, it’s the worst, absolutely disgraceful, performance. Did he even apologise?

 

I don't think there is a debate on here, more or less everyone says it's McCann's responsibiliy. I just mentioned what 2 ex players had said and they both firmly stated it was the players fault.

As I said I think in CW case he is just not wnat to be openly criticise McCann or the Allam's.

 

Of course the players must take some responsibility but for me the clincher as to who is most to blame is that in the first half of the season many of our players looked very decent - Long. Burke, de Wijs, Lopes, Elder, Stewart for example. In fact by early January Tom Eaves was beginning to look a handful in certain games too. Since then they have gone backwards. This might be partly their attitude but feels to me that Grant McCann failed to get the best out of them and rather than improving them as players, he took them backwards.

 

I guess that what he meant by "not yet" when asked if he would like to manage City.

 

Anyone absolving the players from any blame for the second half of the season debacle needs their bumps read. I try to never single out players and coaches for criticism but, McCann leaves himself wide open with him 'seemingly' late and more than often not his like for like substitutions, his reluctance to change shape - my old boss used to quote ''if you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you're getting'' - a suitable mantra for the Allams and coaching staff to ponder perhaps? However, whatever McCann's shortcomings, NOTHING can excuse some of the abject, bone idle and 'couldn't give a ****' performances of certain members of the squad - being poorly coached (if that's the case) cannot be used as an excuse to stroll about the pitch, not put in a tackle, not track back or not complete a five yard pass - that shows is zero pride in your own performance. Too many are not fit to wear the shirt, and that's not McCann's fault.

 

I thought if his contract expired it would be at the end of the month, this Friday. From what you're saying he would have been told by now so it would have leaked out. You're probably right but here's hoping he's gone by next week or it's really looking bad for the fans..

 

Plenty of time on his hands?

 

How can it not be McCanns fault if they don't put effort in? It's his job to get them to play like they care and put effort in. If they don't then he has failed to do his job well enough.

 

That's total and utter ****e - if they don't want to track back, tackle and work for the team he can't make them, short of yukking them off and replacing them with U23's, you can't make people have pride in their job, that comes from within and to many of ours don't have it.

 

Did grant show any pride in his job?... Lead from the front!

 

Warnock does it everywhere he goes. Turns around a bunch of players and suddenly they're fighting for their lives. Under Bruce and the Nigels we were the same.

To be fair to City's players specifically, I don't think they've been lazy or lacked commitment apart from the Wigan game where they gave up after a few goals had gone in. And to be fair to McCann he did what he could to deal with that by dropping a few key culprits. Ultimately the team under his coaching has been ****e and got worse as the season went on, regardless of effort levels.

But it's really more of a general point about the often posted question of whether to blame the manager or players. It can only ever be both, logically. If the manager isn't responsible for the team's performance then why have one?

 

Of cause you are right, but you have to ask yourself why were the players acting in this way, it smells of a dressing room not performimg for the coach.

Just reading Phil Buck's article on Jackson Irvine, leads me to believe that McCann is more of a yes man than I thought. He praised the owners in his last one or two press conferences, but sounds as if he really let Irvine down and just accepted what Ehab said. If the players see this, no wonder they have no respect for him.

 

Of course McCann is accountable for their performances, but they are responsible, and there is a huge difference between the two.

Whether McCann is your manager or Warnock, you should give your all every single game. They are paid by Hull City to play for Hull City to the best of their ability. They are not paid by Hull City to hope a manager can motivate them, the fact they are getting paid to be a professional footballer should be more than enough. Saying the players aren't to blame is illogical.

McCann is as well to blame, and of course he needs to leave. But sacking him isn't not suddenly going to solve all of our problems, it solves one of the many many problems we have.

 

Or mebbe not performing for the owners? Senior pro's asked to finish the season unpaid, pay cuts - the place is rotting from the head down, there's **** coming out that shocks us so God only knows what we're not hearing about. I don't rate McCann but, those who blame him for 'everything' are wrong, imo.

 

And nor should it

 

In a number of instances it is Terrys fault, he was instrumental in them joining!

 

It's the fault of the Allams. I'm shocked as to why any Hull City fan is surprised where we are now. Most of us knew this where we were heading. I really don't want to say I told you so, but ****ing hell, it's been predicted by many on here so many times over the last few years, so why the big hoo-ha now?