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The (Sir) Alwaysright Gordon Road Stand Thread

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  1. grumpygit

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    I will not try to justify what happened to the slaves taken to America, it was a terrible period in our history. However, the time that this occurred has to be considered, in this country many white people were also sold into slavery. I urge people to read the attached as a example of how the way black slaves were treated, is actually no different to the way white slaves were treated,


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_sweep
     
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    ( NEW) Normal services have been resumed............... can I help it if I have been a little bored without Football, Referees, Linesmen, Hi Viz etc.

    I have just come to Gillingham to visit my mum. I went to Tesco to do a load of shopping for her...... I am not familiar with the store layout ! I went to get a scan-as-you-shop scanner --- and encountered a malfunction. I went to customer service desk for help - but they sent me back to the Tills area. The route was not one designated on the floor plan of ''directional arrows.''

    I then started to select the items from display - but ( because I wasn't familiar with the shelves ), I found myself zig-zagging in the first aisle - to find what I needed. Another customer said that I should be going in the direction of the arrows. I ignored her. She obviously thought that I had committed the crime of the century - she must have 'reported' me to a Tesco 'floor walker' ---- the retail equivalent of a chap in a Hi Viz jacket.

    The 'floor walker' came up to me and told me to follow the arrows......... ( brb - stop laughing ! ). --- You don't think I was going to give in quietly ?

    (( as politely as I could )) I said ''I will - when the Senior Tesco staff member - who I know, does exactly THAT (( by sheer coincidence I did see a Staff member doing the same as me )), and only when the Tesco Home Delivery Shopping staff also follow the arrows.''

    Mr Floor walker skulked off with his tail between his legs !
     
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  3. brb

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    Soon as I got to the words encountered malfunction <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    If I can be pedantic for a moment....

    A note to Alex Scott - the word you was looking for was pedestrian - not pedantic !
    Football 'pundit' Alex Scott was trying to describe the very slow movement of the players on the pitch --- and demonstrated her lack of English grammar. Her choice of adjective was cringe worthy - --- -

    ----- or am I just being too pedantic ?
     
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    You pedantic,,,never. <doh>
     
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    I created a monster for myself, when I chose my username ------ obviously it is with a certain 'tongue-in-cheek' ( or in my case, foot-in-mouth. ) -- But I do try to attend to the finest details - or as Mrs. Alwaysright tells me - I am such a devious bleep, I have to make sure that I am 'always right.'
     
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    I don't think they've done it for any World Cup Final !

    On Wednesday, Football is finally ''coming home.'' The game between Burnley v Everton, is SO important, it is being shown live on BBC1 AND BBC 2 !!! --- WHY ?

    As much as I love my football, I can understand, when those who don't care for football, say that there is too much football on the television...........
    .............. and it's good to know that my Television Licence fee isn't being wasted !
     
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    He's not so wise !
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-53...tigation-for-the-tasering-of-a-birmingham-man

    Recently, I have stated in this forum, that all lives matter. I have family and friends whose skin colour includes that of the noun 'black' -- but, which is totally irrelevant in my love for them.

    The story in the link saddens me - not because a black person has been tasered by the police - but because a black person has disrespected anyone else with a black skin colour - by using the ''Race Card'' in a situation whereby the only person who is being racist is Mr (not so ) Wyse.

    You need to dismiss the colour of his skin -Mr.Wyse had been arrested by the Police the day before this incident. On the day that he was tasered he was running away from the Police. He was in possession of illegal drugs (( his admission )). What did he think was appropriate action for the police to take ? Under the circumstances, I don't think it unreasonable or excessive that the Police used a taser on a fleeing criminal.

    The report gives figures that 20% of incidents where Police use a taser, involve a person of black(ish) skin colour. Therefore, it must be assumed that 80% ( 4 times as many ) of incidents involve people with a white(ish) skin colour. The report suggests that the number of black people tasered is disproportional - because people with a black(ish) skin colour make up only 3.5% of our population....... What the report fails to say is that statistics will show that criminals with a blackish skin, are responsible for fives times the number of crimes committed in this country, compared with other criminals with white skin. This equation will 'naturally' lead to more incidents whereby a taser may be used --- especially if the person ( regardless of skin colour), decides to run away from Police, whilst committing a crime.

    I will not stop Mr.Wyse from voicing his opinion about racism. I share his concerns about any unfair treatment, by Police ( or any other body of people ), purely on the grounds of skin colour - but - it does no favour to any black person when Mr.Wyse states that he would not have been tasered if his skin colour was white! Dare I say that Mr.Wyse is demanding that any person with a black skin must NEVER be tasered ? - surely that is a form of bias / discrimination -- racism against people of white skin colour ?

    Mr. Wyse - you was tasered because; You are a criminal (and a recidivist at that), running away from Police - whilst in possession of illegal drugs......... nothing to do with the colour of your skin --- and to embarrass many good people of black skin colour, by your racism in playing the ''race card',' is not so wise.
     
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    I appreciate from a police officers perspective it can be a difficult call, but I'll give a seperate view not connected to that story, to where I stand on this.

    Any form of weapon should only be used as a last resort. But lets give clarity around what I mean by that, a weapon should only be used as a method of restraint IF you feel you are at threat of physcial attack. They should not be used to prevent an individual getting away nor should they be used, for making the intended target obey an instruction, unless again the officer feels at threat of harm.

    They should certainly not be used for example to stop a criminal getting away, if they have not commited an act of physical violence and are not deemed as threat to the public.

    A weapon should not be used as replacement for resources.

    If I have in my possession cannabis and if the cop let's me get away, I can destroy the evidence, this is NOT a reason to use a tazer. This is a drug matter, not one of violence.

    We issued tazers because of the increase maybe of knife crime or incidents of harm to officers, I get it, I can't speak for the case you have highlighted, because I don't know what was going through the officers mind, nor do I know how intimidated he felt by the individual, and more importantly *WHY he felt like that. That latter *answer, would tell you if he used the tazer, because the individual was black.

    Afterall on that last question v answer, the individual claimed it would not have happened had he been *white.
     
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    I have much agreement with you - when it comes to choices Police should not be 'forced' to make - due to a lack of manpower etc etc. --- but, if the police merely stand still as the criminal runs away - where do you suppose that leaves any law enforcement and justice for victims etc......... but - let's not get distracted by Politics ---

    My post was my thoughts on ( in my honest opinion ), the racism being used by Mr.Wyse - who- by his own admission was committing another crime - the day after he had been previously arrested --- and claimed that he was tasered only because of the colour of his skin.

    Whether the officer was correct to use a taser on Mr.Wyse is subject to debate - but - he had no proof to make a slanderous statement - which does nothing to address the cause of people with non white skin, as they seek to address ALL forms of injustice in the World - not just against criminals whose skin colour may be black.
     
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    Taser ?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53176472

    ..... I know that brb will tell me that this situation was more justifiable in the use of tasers ----
    but to reiterate my point that a taser would not be used based on skin colour of the intended recipient -

    I have had close enough dealings with the Police to know what a complete hassle it is if, during a restraint, ''extraordinary'' measures are taken (( i.e. use of taser or pepper spray - let alone a firearm )).

    If the 'recipient' is injured or incapacitated, the very FIRST action by the officer is to administer First Aid, followed by an expedient trip to Hospital ( where they go to the front of the queue --- is that fair ? ). ONLY when the 'prisoner' is discharged by the Doctor, can the prisoner be allowed to go to the Police station - where they are firstly, given all their ''rights'' - including medical examination - before ANYTHING.

    The officers in question will be required to endure all the disruption to their day --- they don't clock off just because 5pm has arrived. They will be expected to complete the necessary paperwork -- and, NOW, all the additional forms etc that have to be completed........

    This as a 'flavour' of the major inconvenience faced by officers who are 'compelled' to use 'last resort' measures -- which are not taken lightly. If officers were totally honest, they may say ( as they have said to me ), that the last thing they wish to do is to add several more hours to their day by using a taser - so they DON'T !.... I would say that this type of inconvenience should NOT stop them from making the correct choice - and to use a taser if required ------

    The colour of the recipient's skin is the last thing on the mind of the officer.
     
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    Don't go on the road. It will kill you easier than Coronavirus.....................Why ? because of bloody electric scooters !

    They are quickly becoming a far GREATER menace on the road ( and on the footpaths ), than bicycles and mobility scooters --- at least with those forms of transport you stand a chance of seeing them coming - as they tend to travel much slower than the latest 'fad'

    I have seen many electric scooters being used over the last few months - EACH time, the rider resembles some sort of Kamekaze pilot -rushing to his/her death - and not worrying about the carnage they may cause. --- Are they really that desperate to commit suicide ? The riding that I have witnessed, has been with little regard for personal injury - let alone thought for the safety of other road ( and pavement ) user. ........ I have seen riders struggling to bring their scooters to a halt - and deliberately crashing to the floor to avoid a collision with a motor car................... And if you're walking along the footpath, and decide to cross the road just as a scooter, coming from behind, reaches you - there's going to be the creation of an antisocial bubble between the pair of you ( and anything else in the immediate vicinity.)

    Now I see that the Government has given the 'green' light for this new form of 'green' transport - by making these damned contraptions legal -on the road !! -- I don't think that the Government realise that the colour of blood that is going to be spilled ( in great quantity ), is red - nearly as red as my face gets when I see another electric scooter - being ridden by Mr. Idiot and his cousin Mrs. Stupid....

    ...... Years ago, the Government had a public safety slogan '' Keep death off the road.'' -- some wag added '' Ride on the pavement instead '' ---- well now we can (un)safely say the slogan has gone full circle -- '' Keep death on the road. ''
     
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    I know the government were discussing this, but I haven't seen anything to suggest they are legal yet.
    With mobility vehicles there are rules, they are restricted to 8 miles an hour on the road or 4 mph on pavements, even though they don't need tax, they do have to be registered with the DVLA .
    Have you seen any new laws regarding e-scooters/
     
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    What I have found is that rented e-scooters are being legally trialed from this weekend, the "rented" bit sounds as though privately owned scooters are not allowed.
     
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    grumpygit - don't know the exact date - I thought I heard from this weekend - legal on the road. Rented scooters ( not privately owned --- what's the bloody difference ? ) Limited to 15 MPH - but the capacity of the motor would generate enough power for 30 MPH..... oh - helmets not compulsory - but you need a driving licence -- says nothing about insurance !

    I know that we've got somebody who resembles a clown in charge - but - I actually think that the monkeys have taken control of the organ grinder -- what I'm waiting for, (( knowing that the Law is an ass --- especially the ''handball'' rule in Football )), is for all pedestrians required to wear full body armour ( but only when crossing the road ))
     
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    Crime doesn't pay ! ----- oh, hang on - I got that wrong !
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53292781

    The crime in question is Theft - by deception ( Section 15 Theft Act 1968 ) - Basically it is stealing. It makes no difference that the victim is a mortgage lender..... in fact this type of crime is worse than most thefts. Deception is pre-meditated, whereas as many thefts are opportunistic.

    I am appalled that the two thieves in question, have been 'let off.' Please don't tell me that, because they are bankrupt, they have no way of repaying what they stole ---- we can all pi$$ away a load of money ( that doesn't belong to us ), and then say ; '' You can't touch me - I am bankrupt.''

    My sons both own businesses, and between them employ about 30 staff. During the 'lockdown', my sons businesses have taken zero revenue. Income has been negligible - through a bit of Furlough style payments - but - the expenses have still been high ( business rate exemption has been a small relief . ) My sons have lost at least £ 500,000 in revenue. They have continued to keep ALL of their staff. They have been 'forced' to use a colossal amount of money in their bank to pay the bills. Luckily they had substantial funds - intended to be used for a new business premises in London - but that's all gone -- along with the chance of employing more personnel ( thus creating more jobs ! )

    --- but my sons are stupid compared to the pair of bandits in the link. My sons should have told all their creditors ( mainly greedy Local authority landlords - who demanded their rent IMMEDIATELY ), that they had no income to pay any bills. They should have declared themselves bankrupt - then got the businesses open again in the name of their wives. (( or some similar type of fiddle ))

    Crime DOES pay - a MILLION times over !
     
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    Keep that bluudy needle away from me. -- I had to smile
    Walking in my town centre the other day - I passed a tattoo parlour. The notice in the window asked for customers entering the premises to keep two meters apart !................ It made me glad that I wasn't thinking of getting a tattoo with the name of Mrs. Alwaysright. Just as well her name is not Lesley -- I'd end up with Leslie ------- which would make my neighbour very happy (( you haven't had nonsense from her for a while )) --

    During the 'Lockdown' I have greatly helped my neighbour. She has had to isolate - and needed shopping, as well as a few 'odd jobs' She has been quite 'reasonable' - even if she did moan about my open windows again.

    The other day, I was going to my garage - to my car - to 'go out.' My neighbour, emerged from her home and approached me. She obviously wanted to talk. I made my apologies - saying that I was almost late for a meeting.....I mischieviously added '' a meeting with a lady.''( my neighbour has previously accused me of conducting an affair with her hairdresser and domestic cleaner --Mrs Alwaysright cruelly laughed at the accusation.)

    My neighbour seemed upset that I couldn't stop to speak to her. She got nasty. She scowled, and asked; '' A lady - or a man ?'' I tried to keep calm. I half laughed and said '' I may be odd - but I'm not that weird. I can't stop - I'll speak to you later.'' She replied '' Don't bother,'' and stormed off.
     
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    Sad news about Big Jack today. Most people will mention 1966, I always remember him for his heroic efforts with the Republic of Ireland side. Italia 90, what a World Cup, along with our own Bobby Robson, two great men. To think our very own Cascarino was in Big Jack's team, what a privilege that must have been.
     
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    Always......in my own and honest opinion your summary above is correct, fair and although subjective, pretty unbiased.
     
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    If it wasn't going to upset Toby, I would feel sad for Watford ! .........(( you'd need to know the 'history' between us. ))

    What a shambles it is at Vicarage Road. Watford have sacked their 3 rd manager this season ! I can see that their league position is precarious - and there is a very good chance that when Man City smack their backsides this week, they will be in grave danger of relegation (( I'm struggling not to laugh )) BUT --

    Watford's Chairman needs to be ashamed at sacking Pearson with two games to go. He took over in December - when they were bottom of the EPL and 9 points 'adrift.' Since than Watford have won 7 games - including against Liverpool, and are actually outside of the bottom three places.

    Unless Pearson is guilty of infidelity with the Chairman's wife, or has given the Chairman a smack - or something a bit naughty, then Pearson should not be treated so poorly ( purely in 'football' terms ). If the decision has been taken as a 'tactical' move, then I hope that Watford will be playing Norwich in the league next season........ only one of their fans deserves that fate !
     
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