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SL Explains Lee Johnson Exit

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  1. wizered

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    Steve Lansdown offers update on Bristol City's new manager search and explains Lee Johnson exit
    The Robins parted company with Lee Johnson after over four years on Saturday

    Bristol City owner Steve Lansdown has reiterated the club are looking for a manager to take them into the Premier League after sacking Lee Johnson.
    The Robins were the only Championship side to have lost every game since the season restarted following their 1-0 defeat to Cardiff City on Saturday.

    That run pushed them out of contention for the play-offs and brought an end to Johnson's reign after over four years in charge.

    With Bristol City set for another season in the Championship after falling away following an initial strong start, Lansdown has explained the club are seeking a candidate that can take them to the next level and earn promotion to the Premier League.

    "It's the usual scene, although I haven't been in it for a while, we've got a lot of good applicants," Lansdown told talkSPORT.

    "John Lansdown and Mark Ashton are sifting through those at the moment and drawing up a shortlist.

    "We have a particular type of person we want to come in, there's been a lot of good work here by Lee, we don't want to lose that, someone has to come in and build on that.

    "The aim is to get us into the Premier League as soon as we can."

    "I'm very sad, as much as he is an employee of myself, I've known him a long, long time as a player here and the last four and a half years as a manager," he explained, on the decision to part company with Johnson.

    "We worked very closely together, we spent a lot of time together and it's difficult when these situations arise. We're in a situation where Lee has done an awful lot of good work at the club in developing the pathway from the academy and fine-tuning our recruitment process.

    "When it comes to the crunch, he hasn't got us over the line and we felt it was time to make the move, to make a change for someone who can help us make that next step.

    We discussed it before, we felt if we beat Cardiff we would have still had a chance at making that sixth place in the play-offs but we lost and that put us out of contention.
    "We felt if we were going to make a change we should start now, bring a breath of fresh air into the club, everyone was on a downer at the point and anybody coming in gets plenty of time for the new season."
    https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport.../steve-lansdown-offers-update-bristol-4309655
     
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  2. wizered

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    SL states it, he worked hard, nice guy, good history together but when it came to the crunch he failed and they need someone else to take that next step, a breath of fresh air will be brought to the club in time for the new season.

    Straight from the horses mouth, LJ had his chance, failed and now he has gone, the world carries on turning.
     
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  3. Supcon72

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    Hard to argue with the logic. I think even those of us not blinded by hatred towards LJ could see that he had hit a ceiling and we need a new direction. That in no way negates the great work LJ did, he got us established in the Championship, something we haven’t had in 40 years, as well as a run to the Semis of the league cup, something we haven’t done since 1989.
    Ultimately he came up short in the main aim. I hope the next guy meets that aim, or he will
    also be shown the door.
     
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  4. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    And rightly so, it's a results orientated profession and it's all that ultimately matters.
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    As sackings go, LJs was pretty dignified.
    It isn't mathematically impossible for us to sneak into the playoffs, is it? I know it's unlikely, but there are 4 games left; Boro, Stoke, Swansea and Preston - a possible 12 points - and we are only 6 points off the top 6.
     
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    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Lots of teams above us will probably be thinking exactly the same. If we lose to Middlesbrough and Cardiff win at Fulham it will be game over anyway. Plus our goal difference is the worst in the top 14 by a distance.
     
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  7. Supcon72

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    Agree, the losses to Forest, and in particular, Cardiff put paid to any play-off hopes
     
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  8. johngalleyfan2

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    Well theres 2 quotes from SL that I have said should be the way forward ...to continue the work ..... started by SL [ and the board ] and Lee ...it also adds weight to my assumption that it had to be then Sat, because we have 5 easy games and should we win 3 or more .. what SL SAID … couldn't get top 6 … well win all five and right results by others and we could!
    Imagine qualify for top sic win at WEMBGLEE and the board will be smirking all over their faces "we got it right" ! And no one will ever know if the bullet had been bitten would Lee have been victorious ...
     
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  9. oneforthebristolcity

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    Thing is JG2, when a manager leaves or one is replaced.....it always up's the game of the players short term...so we may well get a string of results..
     
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  10. bcfcredandwhite

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    ... That's true; no-one will ever know - and he did turn it around before. However, the trends were pointing to our poor run continuing. There was nothing in our performances to suggest that we were simply unlucky, or that we were poised for a return to winning ways any time soon. We looked lost and all confidence had gone.
    I supported Lee as long as I could - and I really disliked the attitudes of people who had the knives out for him since day 1 - or the delight when he was sacked (I always think that if the manager fails then we ALL fail as an entire club community). I desperately wanted him to succeed, but I'm afraid that the first 4 defeats since lockdown - with a full squad to pick from, left him with no excuses and nowhere to hide. I simply couldn't defend him any more, or convince myself that the 'magic formula' was just one 'squad tweak' away. I also didn't like his habit of blaming the players for a defeat - I think he should have taken a Warnock stance and blamed the weather/opposition cheating/referee/pitch/linesman etc - anyone, even himself, but not the players. That didn't help his public image at all.
    It was right that he went IMHO and I wish him all the very best, but now my main concern is who will replace him.
     
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  11. johngalleyfan2

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    FOOTBALL not the same as horse racing in that the majority of it is based on form... but football does have it...form and usually based on a myriad of things … teams become "hot" get the rub of the green .. the lucky break ...etc one of the major parts of a forcasting algorithm is playing teams that do not conform to what is expected [are erratic ] our most points were coming from our last 5 games ==11 pts from first 4 it was 5 finish with 71 pts. I have always stated season is 46 games not groups of 6 -8 or 10's …. you can readily say / pick up say 24 pts out of 30 then only pick up 5 from 24 or however you divide it up.
    Starting the 9 we had BLACKBURN & NFOREST ...away and Sheff wed and Cardiff home first 2 in the pot so a win was a bonus a draw expected likely might lose …. fans on here were not that kind on the ref [ rub of the green result ] lost by 1 goal could have been a draw but were better than BBURN.
    Sheff wed should have been a win had worsre record than us [ take out Covid we likely would have beaten them ] … then Cardiff the old foe a local derby and both sides likely had expected at lest a draw … so on paper a win and maybe 2 draws was all to expect... I felt disappointed we lost all 4 ..
    now we sit with a maximum of 70 points available from the 71 I expected and some interesting battles around us to be fought …… I look at the wider picture always .. and as I have said THE TIMING is to give the board some face knowing we have 5 easier fixtures easy to "we told you so" …..
    I am not able to go every game or even the 4 or so a season away I used to but managed TO PUT £80 -100 INTO THE COFFERS EACH SEASON … NOW IT WILL BE ZILCH not because it was Lee but because how when it was done .. fan since '51 physical supporter since 63 and retired from being so 6th July 2020 …………. around 50 or so programmes from 1966 to 1989 are now rarer … a paper mache model of a phallus kept 1 scarf [ sentimental ] rest gone to charity shop … all that's left now is the memories ….
     
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    opportunistic .. no sacking is dignified .. a face saver for the board!
     
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  13. Supcon72

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    I 100% echo every word in this!!
     
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  14. bcfcredandwhite

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    I’m intrigued JGF - whatever prompted that as a football momento? Was it to characterise a player? Or a manager? And did the charity shop not want it?
     
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    scarf ... was given to me in about ' 69 or 70 by my son pre order on ebay he had to get from somewhere and was not even at school saved all his pocket money to buy as a Christmas present wife at the time didn't even know nor did my parents … everytime he went "to the shops to buy sweets" he came back with a couple 1d sweets and said had eaten the rest USED TO CHASTISE HIM FOR WASTING HIS MONEY IN 1 GO lessons can be learned throughout our life on a lot of things that at the time seem correct …. strange really you ask, it has a lesson in it about the present ................. it was the simple red and white one nothing fancy probably the least expensive of 2 or three available back then ...
     
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  16. Redprintt

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    I can relate to chastising in haste.
    My boy at 13years old hated school and asked my help on a homework project about the Indian Diwali festival.
    I had a right go at him for obviously getting even the project name wrong. I told him Diwali ???
    It's you who is doolally !!!
    Luckily his older sister came to his rescue and told me in no uncertain terms that it was me who was doolally.
    And yes, I'm still doolally.
     
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  17. invermeremike

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    We needed our owner to come out and make his thoughts known to the public and so I'm satisfied with his comments. The search for our new manager obviously needs time and effort and yet we need them on board as soon as possible to get the revised team working with the new strategy and training. On a slightly side note I would not be happy with John Terry and I didn't see him next to Dean Smith in the recent game a few days ago. Perhaps he was at an interview or I could just be wrong!
     
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  18. RedorDead

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    Was you not more shocked that he bought on EBay about 30 years before it was established?
     
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  19. AshtonRed

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    Ultimately all managers fail , the only exceptions are Ferguson , Paisley and Shankly.
     
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  20. johngalleyfan2

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    gosh the stuff that back then finished up as free donations to jumble sales !!!! NOT THIS SCARF THOUGH! you could smell the wax they used [ with most new clothes even now, helps the weaving of natural fibres /or mix ]
     
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