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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by NewarkTiger, Sep 28, 2011.

  1. NewarkTiger

    NewarkTiger Member

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    After managing to get completely lost on the way out of the ground last night (don't ask!!) and finding myself outside the ground at 10.30pm, I bumped into Tom Cairney and his dad (who thankfully got us back to the car!).

    Anyway, I asked TC on his views on the game and although not exactly anything we don't know already his views were:

    * We stopped playing in the 2nd half and he doesn't know why
    * Didn't mention any names, but felt that one or two in particular went missing after they scored
    * Fryatt is pissed off that he's been dropped and his confidence is low, although he still looks sharp in training
    * I asked him if he thought we missed McKenna last night, his reply was 'maybe, he's alright I suppose' - high praise indeed!
    * He seemed really pissed off that it was 'the same old story' with our performance but refused to answer when I quizzed him about whether NP actually knew how to change it

    Anyway, he's a nice lad with sensible haircut, and big thanks to his dad for helping with directions as without him, I'd still be circling the lake!
     
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  2. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    Well this could be a big worry for Fryatt if he's spat his dummie out just because he did'nt start a few games. He should have use it as motivation to cement his place in the side instead of letting his team mates know how pissed off he is with NP for dropping him. This is exactly the point I've been trying to make and if He cannot or chooses not to pick himself up, it raises a big question mark over his future at our club. I'd go with Waggy and McLean everytime.

    I know players want to play football but its how they respond to been dropped or put on the bench that inspires managers or NOT as the case seems to be where Fryatt is concerned.
     
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  3. Totally HCAFC

    Totally HCAFC Active Member

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    Why does this raise a big question over his future? That is one of the wost things you've come out with so far.
    If I knew I was the best striker at the club and scored the most goals out of every player in the team in half the season last year, then I would of course be a bit miffed that only 6 games in I had been dropped. Who wouldn't?

    Last night, Donny played a totally different game, they played route one, this makes it difficult for a team like us who are relatively small and play our game on the floor. Makes it hard for the front players to get a hold of the ball and have a go at goal. Fryatt and Waghorn played well together last night, and I'm sure at home on Saturday they will be even better when we play our style of play.

    As far as McLean is concerned. He came on last night and did nothing but stand offside. You would think he would be doing the same as Fryatt and putting everything into every opportunity he got.
     
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  4. City

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    Thats rich He was one of the players who went missing!
     
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  5. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    DJ, Chill out and please refrain from casting aspurjuns over my comments. Seems the person above 'pearsons flat top' also agrees to a degree with my comments.

    Are you happy to have a negative, miserable striker playing for your team who clearly is not firing on all cyclinders at the moment? If you are then more fool you !!!

    Seems Fryatt did nothing more than have an assist in the City goal. Your opinion of Fryatt is that he is the best player in our side and should play every week, well I disagree so does that mean I'm wrong or you right? No of course not, dont be silly. Fryatt has had more a chance to do well for us last season and this but has squandered his chances on many ocassions when even gifted with one on ones with the keeper but failed to hit the target, NP has been spot on dropping the lad, who I might add, I rate highly but if his attitude does not improve we could have problems.

    Wake up and smell the coffee and stop jumping down peoples throats because they disagree with your highly regarded thougts of Fryatt been our best player !!!
     
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  6. BrisbaneTiger

    BrisbaneTiger Well-Known Member

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    In my humble opinion, its not how a player reacts to being dropped, as some players reaction is to take it personally etc. Every player is different and need to be treated differently. Some players react to a good roasting by playing out of their skin, others will do the total opposite. Some players need a quiet word in their ear and told how good they are etc etc. Some play better when the chips are down, some withdraw.

    All i am saying is, its really down to the management team (and other players as well) to work out and implement what makes each player tick and perform well. If a player is not performing to his ability, then surely it is not all down to him as to how he reacts, its also how NP and co can bring him back to expectations..
     
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  7. THETIGERZHULL

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    Very true, The player himself needs to decide which way he is to deal with situation, either to get the bit between his teeth and prove his worth or slump his shoulders and mope about telling others he aint happy.

    Likeswise, its the job of the manager (NP) to motivate his players in the way you describe, every individual should be treated differently and any good manager should know what makes them tick.
     
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  8. Craigo

    Craigo Well-Known Member

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    I must admit I was a bit worried about Fryatt's reaction to being dropped because he seemed to lose enthusiasm when he was dropped at Leicester to the point that he dropped right down the pecking order.
    Maybe he isn't the type that reacts positively to criticism.
     
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  9. THETIGERZHULL

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    Thank you !!!!

    So it aint just me then !!!

    BeverleyDJH... Take heed
     
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  10. Totally HCAFC

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    All im saying is, if we want to win games we need our best players on the pitch.
     
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  11. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    No, thats not all your saying, you said "Why does this raise a big question over his future? That is one of the wost things you've come out with so far"

    So I responded with my justification for making my comments and then 'Craig In Nottingham' Replied...
    "I must admit I was a bit worried about Fryatt's reaction to being dropped because he seemed to lose enthusiasm when he was dropped at Leicester to the point that he dropped right down the pecking order.
    Maybe he isn't the type that reacts positively to criticism"


    Dont make it so personal all the time !!!

    Its obvious NP wont entertain playing Fryatt, Waghorn and McLean altogether at the same time so until Fryatt bucks his ideas up I think its logical to play McLean and Waghorn up front who both seem more hungry than Fryatt at the minute.
     
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  12. Totally HCAFC

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    Fryatt is our best finisher, and a goal threat.

    As for you saying his future has to be in doubt, thats just ridiculous. Which is why I said that one of the worst things iv heard you come out with. He's going nowhere, his confidence is low because everyone was pilling pressure on him, as he is the only goalscorer in the team!
     
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  13. THETIGERZHULL

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    Might I remind you again of 'Craig In Nottingham's' comments...

    "I must admit I was a bit worried about Fryatt's reaction to being dropped because he seemed to lose enthusiasm when he was dropped at Leicester to the point that he dropped right down the pecking order.

    Look where he ended up after that.... With Us. All i'm saying is... If he does not make a drastic change with immediate affect he could fnd himself further down the pecking order then who knows what might happen to him?

    Fryatt is a very good player but your been very silly and quite frankly childish by ingoring or choosing to over look the likes of McLean and Waghorn in the goal scoring rankings, both McLean and Waghorn have been brought into the side to score goals too. Its not all about your favourite player.
     
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  14. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    I also beg to differ, Fryatt is, I would say on par with McLean, but McLean is far more up for it at the moment and we have'nt seen enough of Waghorn to comment on whether or not Waghorn is or will be our best finisher and goal threat.

    Fryatt has squandered far too many chances for my likeing.
     
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  15. westhulltiger

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    I would rather have Fryatt in the team than McLean
     
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  16. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    Your choice wellhulltiger, we all have our own thoughts and opinions which I fully respect but based on my reason, I would'nt AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.
     
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  17. pock tiger 64

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    not for the first time either
     
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  18. westhulltiger

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    Just think Fryatt will always score more goals than McLean
     
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  19. THETIGERZHULL

    THETIGERZHULL Active Member

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    Maybe, but I think McLean offers more than just goals. I think McLean make more intelligent runs in the box WITHOUT the ball to pull defenders out of position in turn creating more space for others (Koren etc) to get into better goal scoring positions and I am convinced his set up play is far better than Fryatts and he wins more balls in the air than Fryatt despite been far smaller !!!
     
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  20. westhulltiger

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    I don't like the fact that when McLean is on the pitch we automatically pump long balls in the air for him! Yes he has a good leap but he is 5ft 5
     
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