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The Athletic article...

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  1. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    I would guess that the value of that golden share is going down fast. In the old days local business owner buys local club and funds it. Now with all the money at the premier league and little at the bottom end you need some rich sugar daddy willing to loose loads of money, oh but fair play rules say they can't do that either.
     
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  2. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    They can put equity in can't they? Or is that not allowed now either?

    Regardless I suspect there's changes coming to FFP.

    Salary caps will be a good and long overdue measure in all leagues below PL (though really should include PL). Wealth distribution needs to be fixed too or else England is very quickly going to end up with about 30-35 clubs and no more.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    You can still throw £39m in addition to earnings, before you have to worry about FFP, that's one of the few assets we do have, as our losses are currently zero.
     
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    The worst thing about this is none of it is really surprising
     
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  5. Howdentiger2

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    Debt free
    No huge contract liabilities
    No huge future transfer liabilities
    Instant upturn in fan base numbers/spending/feel good factor
    All of financial fair play to play with which will allow for large investment without penalty
    Local council potentially willing to work closely with new owners ( to stick 2 fingers up at the allams? )

    Lots of reasons why we are and would be an attractive club to buy IF the sale price was sensible
     
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  6. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately to get a sensible sale price you need sensible people setting the price & that’s why we’re ****ed. We have two morons at the helm.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    I think the Daily Fail and Phil have done well to keep onside for so long, if I had been a journalist reporting on City, I would have been banned years ago!!!!

    So Ehab thinks he can control the free press, absolutely pathetic and further drags our club through the mud! In doing so he undermines any positive news being promoted.......oh just remembered, there isn't any!
     
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  9. Putney Tiger

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    So sad to think what might have been had Grieves taken over. Instead we’re heading for league one.
    I think we need a different tactic. Maybe Someone needs to approach it like this...

    Dear Mr Allam,

    We have been together for 10 years now, and I think you’ll agree, our relationship has had its highs and lows.

    Your ‘gift to the City of Hull’ was welcomed with gratitude, hope and optimism for a brighter and more successful future. You were loved and appreciated. The fans felt those feelings were reciprocated too.

    As your stewardship progressed, there were some decisions that were made, no doubt with the good of the club, the long term success and marketability of the brand at the forefront of your mind. In many other industries, these changes may well have brought about greater success and revenue. Football, however, is a very different business.

    I know you admitted you were never really ‘football men’ and you can be forgiven for failing to realize the relationship the fans have with their club. A club that many fans have held close to their hearts for years, decades, and in many cases, across generations.

    A football club is less like a business, and more akin to a small country. The leader of such, should always be in mind that the changes he or she makes should be democratic and for the good of the country as a whole, while baring in mind the sense of patriotism, pride, and passion that your citizens possess.

    We don’t want the name of our country changed, nor our flag replaced.

    For Parents, children, and grandparents, the Saturday afternoon ritual means so much. It’s a time to connect. To be able to forget the stresses of the past week, to put on hold, however briefly, the rigors of life in a working class town, to focus on something beautiful. To cheer on the team. To sing. To chant. To be happy together in victory or defeat.

    Sadly that has feeling is diminished. We have fallen out of love, and we feel that you have too.

    Like any relationship, the key to success is communication. Without good, effective communication, one party cannot convey their feelings and wishes, and ultimately neither party can be happy.

    Without good communication, it’s impossible to truly understand the goals that each party has for the long term.

    It is essential to know that both parties are happy in the relationship. If not, then it’s time to leave. To move on with a clearer understanding of what it is you truly want, and to hopefully have grown and learned more about yourself as a result.

    With that said, we as fans would like to know what it is you desire. What are your goals yourself and your desires for the future of our football club?

    There have been some assertions that you have been close to a deal for the club on a number of occasions, and you have mentioned that you are open to a sale. Is this still your feeling? Do you still desire a sale or has something changed?

    it would help everyone if were able to tell us your thoughts, hopes and desire for the future of Hull City AFC.

    If you are still genuinely hopeful of a sale, it may even help to expedite this process.

    I would invite you to lay out the key factors that would lead to a sale of the club, and our ultimate separation of ways between the fans and the custodians of this historic and important club.

    What would it take?

    We might even be able to help.

    I know it can be hard when a relationship ends. Things can be hostile and emotional. Let’s try to take a step back and see how we can both be happy again.

    I know deep down you want that for the fans of this football club, and the citizens of the city you call home.

    With thanks and best wishes for your future.
     
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  10. hullborn

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    As well written as that is Putney, I dont think the Allams deserve such a decent and peaceful approach.
     
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  11. Charon

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    Or a more concise version

    Dear Assem and Ehab,

    With the greatest respect, will you please **** off now

    Yours
     
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  12. Large Elephant

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    'Precisely?' I wasn't attempting to be precise. It is simply my suspicion (hence my use of the words 'I suspect'). We obviously can't know what might have happened had the take over gone through - but I would still happily have taken that chance. It may be a very long time before we get another opportunity - especially if the owners don't actually want to sell.
     
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    And a one word reply

    Eh?
     
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  14. dazzar86

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    The funny thing is, whether you sent them this version or Putney's version they would take both as a personal attack, as that's just the way they think. They never seem to see the olive branches or fair assessments, just the bits they don't like.

    Lichaj's contract talks from The Athletic article is a perfect example.
     
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  15. Howdentiger2

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    Agreed and exactly why I said it's a big if!
     
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  16. Putney Tiger

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    That was what i was trying to avoid. No personal attacks (that hasnt gotten us very far). Calm things down and take the emotion out of it and hopefully he realises that theres a better way.
     
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  17. hullborn

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    But we're 7 or 8 years into this mess.. If they haven't seen the errors of their ways in this time there's no hope they ever will.
     
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  18. Gone For A Walk

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    A hundred mill, u ****ed it up, a hundred mill, u ****ed it up, a hundred .......
     
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  19. Putney Tiger

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    Does that mean we stop trying?
     
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  20. hullborn

    hullborn Well-Known Member

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    Nono, far from it. I just think we maybe need a different approach, as they've proved they're not here to be reasoned with.. maybe we need to be a bit more drastic?
     
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