The absentees who I have spoken to all blame the Allams 100%. Can't speak for those absentees I haven't spoken to.
Fickle? There will always be some but there are quite a number of fans who have been attending for decades but now no longer attend. I wouldn't call them fickle. They've just had enough of the Allams. Sad but certainly true.
Att. v FFC on 11 Jan was 11,347 Att. v CFC on 25 Jan was 24 109 Att. v HTAFC on 28 Jan was 10,474 Like I say, fickle.
Accept that. Even for Hull City and Newcastle to be mentioned together in the same sentence when comparing the success of both clubs over the last few years is miraculous and something that any fan of ours would have laughed at before our move to the KC. Three quarters of the clubs in the Football League had probably had more success then us before we left Boothferry Park. Which makes our last 15 years even more remarkable and also remarkable is the way we have failed to build up our fan base on the back of it.
Cheap point. I was there supporting in 1999 when we were sat six points adrift at the bottom of Division 4. Can you say the same ? That is my point. Our fans had deserted us in biblical proportions.
For a couple of seasons in the 90s we usually got sub 5k crowds. Perhaps local football sophisticates didn't care for Terry D's direct tactics.
Yes, I can, decades have now passed since I moved back and followed city home and away as we progressed from the fourth to the top tier.
Yeah I see what you mean. 50+ years of continuous support and then some people have had enough. That is fickle isn't it eh? Oh, and who would have thought a top Premier League side such as Chelsea would generate more interest than (say) Huddersfield?
Agreed 100%. Unfortunately the Allam factor is what has driven people away. Even more unfortunately is that many will never return. Its easy to lose your fans (particularly when you haven't got a long standing huge fan base built on generations of reasonable success) but it is very difficult to get them back. Such a shame after the massive effort and success achieved with the fan base particularly in the pre-Allam era. As you say it is remarkable that the fan base was not built upon on the back of it.
Somebody who had no idea that City's gates double if we are playing a Top 6 team and that many people in this city only want to see the stars not their own home town club? I get it - you hate the Allams, and absolutely everything is their fault, . Don't let it blind you to the bigger picture of which they are only a part.
I think most people would have realised that gates for 'normal. matches are massively down on what they should be. Most would also know that the Allams are the reason for this. Most would also recognise that when a top Premier League side are playing this will attract many more people. This will include not only the committed City fans but also significant numbers of football fans who rarely actually attend matches and many will not have any allegiance to Hull City. Combine that with the very cheap ticket prices for Chelsea's visit (something the Allams actually did get right) and the increased attendances would not be a surprise to many. I don't know how you worked out my particular feelings towards the Allams - I've always kept that so well hidden. Only a part? I look forward to the bigger picture and to a time when they no longer have ANY part in HCAFC! Bring it on!
I look forward to the bigger picture when we have 20,000 rock solid regulars regardless of who the manager is, who the chairman is, who the opposition is or what formation we play.
Of course we have fickle people. There are absolutely some who went for decades who don’t go purely because of the Allams. I was one of them, for a short period before I decided to go back (I thought then they’d ****ed off, but anyway I stayed when it turned out they hadn’t as I was missing it and would have come back anyway) However when we were doing well there were plenty there purely because we were doing well. Actually some I wouldn’t even describe as fickle because they were open about only being there for the Premier League. The Allam’s biggest missed opportunity was not getting and keeping kids on board though. The middle aged Premier League fans would have drifted off eventually anyway actually when the novelty wore off, and like a shot when we went down, but their kids, and any kids who went, would have got used to going, it would have seeped into their blood and many of them would have become fans for life. That’s the tragedy
Its a combination of few factors but for me whilst the Allam’s Side show has without doubt had an impact on certain sections of the crowd I would be amazed if scores more simply just don’t like the idea of watching City struggle ON the pitch. We can argue all season about numbers for and against but with mass self isolation against the Allam's ****ishness...little or no hope of new owners and with L1 potentially looming it’s easy to see why you can sit where you like at the KC these days. No matter how long you’ve been going at the end of the day its the same old story...a combination of a lack of serious investment at crucial times when it was needed most resulting in managers and players leaving with many pointing the fingers at the clubs lack of ambition. In short it’s the Allam effect,a lack of ambition and watching us currently getting torn apart every week. Come back Adam Pearson..all is forgiven.
At least we no longer have to watch HCFC getting torn a new worn every week. COVID 19 might just enable us to stay up. That last defeat v the vermin was as almost as depressing a home game as Bradford 96.. A collective white flag waved by the club/police. Visiting clubs now know the KCOM is not a fortress but has a welcome mat. If we go down, the club changes ownership, how many fans will start attending again to watch Lg 1? People pinning a lot of hopes on new owners need to be realistic about the nature of people buying football clubs these days. The Allams would rather slit their own throats than see someone come in and make a success of it, especially if Adam Pearson is involved in some capacity. Ehab Allam was insisting on some involvement with the running of the club as I recall, the last time someone negotiated about purchasing the club. It's now almost 4 years since Ehab Allam penned his farewell in the programme for the Leicester game in 2016/7.(You remember that game don't you? When we beat the Champions of England 2-1 despite not having enough players to fill the subs bench. One of the greatest victories in our history) That's 4 years of continued decline/stagnation/lost time and the club being shrunk, when we all know how much effort it took to build it up to 2008 levels. When the club is sold, and we reach another fork in the road, we can only hope the new owners understand football and are not asset strippers unlike most owners these days.