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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. davecg69

    davecg69 Well-Known Member

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    I swear he thinks he’s in some reality show .......

    To turn on his own country where some of the police (and I have to believe it’s not the majority) are totally out of control, is appalling ........
     
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  2. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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  4. Ian Thumwood

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    Dave

    Actually, this is a nice little stumbling block for Boris. If the MPs are vulnerable, they should be isolating. I can totally appreciate their concerns about not returning to a working environment which could be unsafe. Having the whole house assemble wearing masks will set a very strange tone and, if MPs are made in effect come to work, it does seemingly go against the government's own advice. If an MP catches Covid, it will be a PR disaster.

    The alternative response is to leave the situation as it is so that Boris gets a regular "kick in" during PMQTs. I am sure that most people see Rees-Mogg as an irrelevance if not a total idiot. I am not sure that Rees-Mogg will get his way and cannot see Parliament returning to normal until a good few weeks away.

    The more interesting scenario is to se if we reach a point at which the government seemingly appears to lose respect. The Cummings scenario has done them no favours and with loads of holiday making floating advice and spending last weekend at the coast, it seems clear to me that people have already started to stop listening to them. I was actually surprised by the extent that the Scottish government's advice mirrors the UK government's despite the rhetoric which is suggestive that NS has been distancing herself from the messages coming out of London. Seeing a divergence there will be interesting and I think she has already set her stall out for future elections. If you were Scottish, would anyone chose Boris over her ?
     
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  5. Archers Road

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    Some people would say the robbing bastards should have been wearing masks for years :bandit:
     
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  6. davecg69

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    Well, I heard that the government will insist that their MPs vote for it via the use of the whips. Once again, I’ve written to my “friend” Caroline asking her to, at least, abstain, if not vote against it. If they’re only going to allow 50 MPs in the chamber, who gets to decide? And where does that leave the millions of voters who now have no representation? Disgraceful, I say ....
    If I was Scottish, I’d be looking to vote for Nicola over Blojo ..... but I think (and I’m not a card carrying Labour member) Starmer looks like the man .....
     
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  7. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

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    The Trumpman show ... Maybe he knows something we don’t :bandit:
     
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  8. Farked19

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    I have not been a card carrying member for five years. Not because I necessarily disagreed with Corbyn's policies, just the doubting of any possibility that he could get into power to implement them. I am certainly going to rejoin now. What impresses me is the number of " non political" acquaintances who are praising his performance, people who point blank refused to contemplate voting Labour five months ago.
     
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  9. The Ides of March

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    Regarding the history of British manufacturing, the shipbuilding industry was still wedded to working practices dating back to the 19th Century when the Koreans and Japanese appeared on the scene. Furthermore, British industry suffered from poor management skills.
     
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  10. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    There’s a petition just started against this abominable move. Please sign and share:
    https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliam...5d30912f3a3&utm_content=fht-22558322-en-gb:v2
     
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  11. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    The Moggster is in full flow right now. If you can stomach it, watch Freeview 232.
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Armed forces are very against this move. Could get interesting.
     
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  13. saintrichie123

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    @ChilcoSaint my reply from the BBC of my Emily Maitlis complaint.


    Thank you for contacting us.

    We would like to make absolutely clear that Emily Maitlis was not ‘removed’ or ‘suspended’ from the programme on 27 May, despite much speculation to the contrary. She herself has tweeted that she ‘asked for the night off’.

    The BBC must uphold the highest standards of due impartiality in its news output. We reviewed the entirety of Newsnight on Tuesday May 26th, including the opening section, and while we believe the programme contained fair, reasonable and rigorous journalism, we feel that we should have done more to make clear the introduction was a summary of the questions we would examine, with all the accompanying evidence, in the rest of the programme. As it was, we believe the introduction we broadcast did not meet our standards of due impartiality. Our staff have been reminded of the guidelines.

    Newsnight has a long-established and recognised reputation for excellent journalism, for scrutinising arguments and for holding power to account, which it does on a daily basis, including the night in question.

    Our editorial guidelines allow us to make professional judgments but not to express opinion.

    The dividing line can be fine, but we aim to say so if we think we have overstepped the mark.

    The introduction to Newsnight was intended as a summary of the issues that would be explored, with all the supporting facts and evidence, in the programme. But as broadcast, it risked giving the perception that the BBC was taking sides, and expressing an opinion, rather than being impartial.

    It said that ‘the country’ was ‘shocked the government cannot see’ Dominic Cummings broke lockdown rules; that he ‘made those who struggled to keep the rules feel like fools’.

    But there are some who do not share this opinion, nor think that the issue is a ‘scandal’ or the Prime Minister has displayed ‘blind loyalty’.

    By presenting a matter of public and political debate as if the country was unanimous in its view, we consider Newsnight risked giving the perception that the BBC was taking sides - or that the introduction constituted the presenter’s opinions, rather than a summary of the journalism which would follow, which explored these issues rigorously and fairly and, crucially, with the supporting evidence.

    This is not a question of apportioning blame to anyone.

    It is a question of accountability to our audiences.

    Our audiences hold the BBC in high trust, not least because we hold ourselves to exacting standards, and we do not want to forfeit this by ignoring our own rules.

    Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
     
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  14. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I haven’t heard about my complaint yet, they probably have quite a few to deal with!
     
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  15. saintrichie123

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    Had a reply from Therese Coffey MP regarding my complaint about Dom. Very conciliatory saying that she "understood my anger " at the situation. Stopped short of agreeing with me and said she believed Pfeffel's explanation!
     
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  17. San Tejón

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    Surely, by the same standards, this should mean an end to postal votes at elections. The principle is the same. Or would that mean the Tories losing too many votes, given the penchant for so many old people (not all before someone feels affronted) to vote for them.
     
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  18. StJabbo1

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    From Piers Morgan, nouveaux man of the people. I don't care where the message comes from as long as it gets out there repeatedly. No easy ride no moving on.
     
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  19. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Surely if churches can reopen but there can be no hymn singing then in parliament surely there must not be any shouting.
     
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  20. Osvaldorama

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    2020: The Movie continues
     
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