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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    They really should be applauded for the fact they would rather keep their citizens safe instead of purely chasing the tourist dollar.

    Hats off to them
     
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  2. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Don't go to India...

     
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  3. Bwood_Ranger

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    Probably helps them attract other tourists given we’re the most likely to be bringing Covid over.
     
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  4. NigsyHoops

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    Staines it *ucking really annoys me what they ARE doing, not trying to do. That poison dwarf
    Staines it *ucking really annoys me what they ARE doing, not trying to do. That poison dwarf and his gangsters!
     
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  5. sb_73

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    Johnson has said multiple times that what we are doing is trying to avoid a second spike.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/b...is-Johnson-stay-alert-avoid-second-spike.html

    Nursing Times 27 April:
    He said it was crucial to prevent a “second spike” and not allow the reproduction rate of Covid-19 – the number of cases that are likely to emerge from one person having the virus - to go back above one.


    “Because that would mean not only a new wave of death and disease, but also an economic disaster, and we would be forced once again to slam on the brakes across the whole country and the whole economy,” said Mr Johnson.

    “We defied so many predictions – we did not run out of ventilators or ICU beds"

    He added: “I refuse to throw away all the effort and sacrifice of the British people and to risk a second major outbreak and huge loss of life and the overwhelming of the NHS.

    “I ask you to contain your patience because I believe we are coming to the end of the first phase of this conflict and in spite of all the suffering we have so nearly succeeded.”


    There are half a dozen other instances revealed by a search on ‘Johnson second spike’.

    I have no idea what the government is trying to achieve though, because the actions seem designed to encourage a second spike. Seems that the key metric is not running out of ventilators and ICU beds, which is easily done by denying people access to them.
     
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  6. Bwood_Ranger

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    I think they’re trying to achieve literally anything that can generate a positive headline.
     
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  7. YorkshireHoopster

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    Difficult one that. The most obvious way to avoid a second spike would be to make an example of Cummings but that very simple measure won't be one that Bojo will take. Just a simple bit of honesty that he was wrong not to do so and a bit of resolve now in order to get the message home to our free thinkers. For the leader of a party that prides itself on being the upholders of law and order it's amazing just how wobbly the rule of law is when it comes to your most trusted spin doctor.
     
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  8. sb_73

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    The only thing to remember with this is that while there are big firms like the airlines who will take the piss, there are many small companies who are really using furlough in an attempt to survive and keep the jobs alive. Let’s hope that a serious number of them pull through. This one size fits all approach needs a good looking at.
     
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  9. Bwood_Ranger

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    With the caveat that it’s obviously far too soon to suggest the government is doing a poor job of this, I’ve enjoyed Marina Hyde’s articles on the topic very much.

     
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  10. KooPeeArr

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    Are we any better off than early March?

    In the last two days both my neighbours have had visitors inside their houses.

    The moment you say that things are going OK and the restrictions will relax, people start acting like they already have relaxed.

    The 5 tests seem flaky - we keep saying that they must be met before the next phase but it doesn't seem to be the case. Regarding infection rates, BoJo says an average of 2,300 cases being confirmed over the last 7 days and then Witty says estimates of 54,000 per week which he admitted was still high (that's about 7,700 a day so three times higher than the confirmed cases).

    Avoiding a second spike is also one of the 5 conditions (predicted for July).

    The devil in me suspects that the abandonment of order also goes a little way to exonerate a particular aide and that this is a deadly diversion tactic.

    Either way, this seems too risky and potentially mean that those of us sticking to the rules have put our lives on hold for three months needlessly.

    Meanwhile the death toll keeps going up (I read today we are one of the highest in Europe for excess deaths which is an allowed comparator except we're still behind on the curve).

    Just pissed off with this **** show that has no end in sight.
     
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  11. Staines R's

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    Another post of yours I totally agree with G.
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    Have you not made it so that the whole street turns out to applaud you after each shift
     
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    Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter, who has just joined the board of the UK Statistics Authority, has been scathing about the way the government has handled its Covid-19 figures.

    Sir David, who attends Sage group of scientists advising ministers, told the Andrew Marr programme earlier this month that the daily No.10 briefings are “not trustworthy communication of statistics”.

    Data given during the briefings was “completely embarrassing” and amounted to “number theatre”, he said. The decision to include the number of tests posted to people, but not yet completed, rendered the figures “inaccurate”.

    Us non scientific experts realised that after about a week.
     
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  14. Stroller

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    It's about time more of these supine scientists grew some balls and called out the 'always following the science' bollocks.
     
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    It took you that long? I thought you were better than that!
     
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    Starting to wonder how Whitty can stand up there beside these ****s. He's supposed to be the real deal on this sort of thing but you don't need to be a scientist to know the last 3-4 weeks have been a shambles. With another weekend ahead of us where people will be doing as they please we are absolutely headed for a second spike in a few weeks. Boils my piss that Johnson is so happy to undo all of the good work we've done so far (or were doing up until the **** gave free reign on beaches). Lockdown will have been for nothing. I just do not understand the thinking, they can't be completely blind to what is happening, can they? 300+ people are still dying every day, in what way does that suggest we are suppressing this ****ing ****ing virus enough? Stay Alert, Control the Virus, **** off, makes me I wish i could reach through my TV and rip his throat out Roadhouse stylee.
     
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  17. Ranger4ever

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    Looking forward to hearing how we are doing against the 200,000 tests per day that Johnson stated we would achieve by tomorrow. As far as I can see we are still only doing about half of this number. Another statistical manipulation coming up!
     
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  18. qprbeth

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    Ranger...you had not noticed that they have changed the goalposts on that one about a week ago.
    Apparently it is NOW the potential to do 200,000 tests a day, not the actual doing!

    Add int that, they are still adding in the tests sent out...and now the limited number of antibody tests we are also doing....it is called scraping the barrel

    For the last few days the figures are not including the number of people tested (number unavailable). Whitty was asked that question and he said it was just a technical glitch, I think it has been at least 4 days now
     
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  19. bobmid

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    I lost all faith and respect for Whitty a long time ago. Apparantly the sage advice is that unlockdown has come too early yet we are following the science. Make no mistake, this is the governments doing from now on. Science cant be used as an excuse. 6 people on one site of 9 that I was supposed to work on have all tested positive.
     
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  20. bobmid

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    But thanks to Cummings and Johnsons refusal to say much about anything, this country has unlocked anyway. Nobody listens to them anymore.
     
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