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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by AmalCarb, Jan 24, 2020.

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  1. Der Alte

    Der Alte Well-Known Member

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    I note that he's been defended by No. 10 - they seem to be ignoring the fact that his child had potentially been exposed to Covid 19 and could have been a vector for disease transfer to his relatives. It may be argued that his actions were "reasonable" but the hard and fast rules applied to lockdown make no allowance for "reasonable" actions.
     
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    Agree, but it shows how ambiguous the lockdown guidelines are.
     
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  3. dennisboothstash

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    No it doesn’t
    The guidance was very clear
    He lied, his wife lied (in print) and to make sure that they could help him get away with it if anyone found out the Govt issued guidance AFTER he did it that said it was a reasonable thing to do.
    He did not follow the guidance in place at the time and arguably he broke the law too (that would have to be decided be a court, but the fact that the Police didn’t push for a prosecution does not prove that his actions weren’t unlawful.)
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Some of us don’t read the papers much
    And rely on this board
    What’s happened?
     
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  5. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Pretended to be isolating at home in London with wife and child. Wife even wrote article about it in paper.
    Actually traveled with both of them to his parents estate in Durham to stay in a home in their land (you know the standard sort of set up most of us have) Supposedly so he could use relatives to look after the kid if they were both badly, but really because it’s nicer to lockdown with a massive garden than it is to do it in London
     
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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Worra ****
    I refused when my lad asked to stay in the gatehouse, I say refused I actually shot at him. Dem de rules
     
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  8. SimonGraysJacket

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    Having been to China Japan and Italy since November I paid for an antibody blood test last week. Test came back negative no antibodies. Quite a simple test if you are ok with milking your fingers.
     
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  9. dennisboothstash

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    Only approved one in this country isn’t a pin prick one. It’s a full on needle in the arm blood sample and sending it away for lab analysis.
    Still not difficult thing and I expect we’ll see it rolling out when they have the volume of tests.
    Still not sure it will say whether you’re immune though, simply that you have had it.
     
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  10. Plum

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    He'll be justifying his trip based on his interpretation of this bit of the guidance. Stretches the imagination a bit but it is open to interpretation.

    any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person
     
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  11. Mr Hatem

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    One is staying at one's country estate until this bloody Covid-19 is over before one returns to town for the Deb Season.
     
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  12. dennisboothstash

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    He won’t be bothering to justify anything because he’s an entitled ****.
    However he want travelling to do any of those things
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    The millions of antibody tests just ordered from Roche are pin-prick ones and you get the results in fifteen minutes.
     
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    Cummings wife is from a wealthy family (her dad's a Baronet and lives in a castle in Northumberland), but Cummings own parents aren't wealthy, they don't have an estate, they live on a farm. Though I suppose you can call a farm a 'massive garden'.
     
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  15. dennisboothstash

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    I didn’t say there were wealthy, although ‘land’ would have been a better word than estate, granted.
    It’s still big enough to have at least one other home on its land though so I imagine it’s a fair size and that there’s a bit more space than he has in London
    It’s jointly owned by him by the way, a second home if you will, and takes around £20k of EU subsidies a year. The same type of subsidies that he is publicly critical of.
     
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    Wonder why the Govt said yesterday that the only approved ones are blood sample ones as I said then?

    And also why they said yesterday that while they were working with the private sector to develop pin prick ones that non had been validated for use yet...as I said?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ody-tests/coronavirus-covid-19-antibody-tests
     
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  17. Ron Burguvdy

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    Where as some make the difficult decisions regardless of their personal loss...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-52772306

    And the Scottish health and English health advisors / people resigned when caught breaking the rules (maybe not the technical parts of the law) either as part of pressure / the honourable thing... Undermines the effort many have already and continues to make
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    I'm no expert, but The Telegraph said the new Roche anti-body tests were these...

    covid test.PNG

    If anyone wants one, you can buy these do at home tests from Superdrug now.
     
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  19. Edelman

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    Always the same with that lot !
    The Rules ""DON'T APPLY""
    Just for us mere peasants :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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    He's quite obviously a bit of a ****, but let's not make it out to be something it wasn't, his parents live in a small bungalow on a farm, he didn't go to some stately home (which is ironic, as if he'd gone 60 miles further to his wife's parents, then he could have stayed on an estate in a stately home).
     
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