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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
ELLERS said:
And I haven’t? There is questioning and there is just moaning. Too much ill informed information. You yourself was telling me on Sunday the real death toll was 40k. You were wrong it’s confirmed as 26k. Too many but the correct figure. I bet you don’t hold your hands up now and say you were wrong? Your just being Mr doom and gloom. You bitched about Cummings in that Guardian article. I told you at the time to wait... what happened they shot theirselves in the foot. They changed direction now. I don’t know what’s worse Watford your incorrect information or those who ‘like’ it?
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My information isn’t incorrect you ostrich. It’s a logical analysis based on the information we have to get an accurate figure and you’re just going to swallow the assumption that only a quarter or so of deaths are in care homes. If their number is anywhere near accurate there’s a lot of unexplained deaths to account for.

**** sake get your head out your arse.
 
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West WindsR said:
My information isn’t incorrect you ostrich. It’s a logical analysis based on the information we have to get an accurate figure and you’re just going to swallow the assumption that only a quarter or so of deaths are in care homes. If their number is anywhere near accurate there’s a lot of unexplained deaths to account for.

**** sake get your head out your arse.
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You do realise you’ll be on ignore soon Bracknell.
 
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West WindsR said:
My information isn’t incorrect you ostrich. It’s a logical analysis based on the information we have to get an accurate figure and you’re just going to swallow the assumption that only a quarter or so of deaths are in care homes. If their number is anywhere near accurate there’s a lot of unexplained deaths to account for.

**** sake get your head out your arse.
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Utter rubbish. You were wrong and like always you won’t accept it. You always assume that everyone in the government is covering up something and when they give out the informations for all the moaners.... they moan.
 
ELLERS said:
Utter rubbish. You were wrong and like always you won’t accept it. You always assume that everyone in the government is covering up something and when they give out the informations for all the moaners.... they moan.
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It’s an incomplete number and you’re swallowing it just as you swallowed the last incomplete number. You said it wasn’t a cover-up as the ONS numbers are available so I suggest you check out the ONS.

Even better, just read this.

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West WindsR said:
It’s an incomplete number and you’re swallowing it just as you swallowed the last incomplete number. You said it wasn’t a cover-up as the ONS numbers are available so I suggest you check out the ONS.

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So Chris Giles of the FT is now the experts on deaths in the U.K.? You are now getting desperate. We don’t know how many people have died and until we have the final figures and causes of death your posts ar3 I’ll informed.
 
ELLERS said:
So Chris Giles of the FT is now the experts on deaths in the U.K.? You are now getting desperate. We don’t know how many people have died and until we have the final figures and causes of death your posts ar3 I’ll informed.
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More so than either of us I suspect.

They’re more informed than hiding behind a low number which excludes those dying without a test in a country conveniently slow to test people.

Explain the excess deaths if you like.
 
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West WindsR said:
More so than either of us I suspect.

They’re more informed than hiding behind a low number which excludes those dying without a test in a country conveniently slow to test people.

Explain the excess deaths if you like.
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I will let the experts in the medical profession do that and won’t listen to others who really don’t have a clue.
Once again you believe the government is covering up. Seriously mate you need to get a grip.
I see what you have done again, when I was discussing that ridiculous tweet from that stupid Labour MP you go off on a tangent and come out with all this ill informed negative crap.
 
ELLERS said:
I will let the experts in the medical profession do that and won’t listen to others who really don’t have a clue.
Once again you believe the government is covering up. Seriously mate you need to get a grip.
I see what you have done again, when I was discussing that ridiculous tweet from that stupid Labour MP you go off on a tangent and come out with all this ill informed negative crap.
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I don’t think they’re covering up. They’re giving an incomplete number which is even more incomplete because of their failed strategy of not believing in testing until a few weeks ago and passing it off as the total. It’s barely more credible than hiding behind the NHS number but if you honestly think it’s anywhere near the genuine total then I overestimated you.

I couldn’t give a **** about some non-entity Labour MP not being nice. It’s not important.
 
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West WindsR said:
I couldn’t give a **** about some non-entity Labour MP not being nice. It’s not important.
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So why did you respond to it if it was important?
Truth is Watford You hijacked that post and have somehow turned it into some political message. Your last post sounded like one of the lefties on Sky FFS.
Anyway this is going around in circles and I would rather get my information from the bods in charge. I will leave to discuss with the ‘likely lads’ . Just don’t mention you know who. :emoticon-0127-lipss
 
West WindsR said:
I don’t think they’re covering up. They’re giving an incomplete number which is even more incomplete because of their failed strategy of not believing in testing until a few weeks ago and passing it off as the total. It’s barely more credible than hiding behind the NHS number but if you honestly think it’s anywhere near the genuine total then I overestimated you.

I couldn’t give a **** about some non-entity Labour MP not being nice. It’s not important.
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You should tell him your dad is bigger than his dad.

My job is in analysis and he doesn’t even seem to be able to grasp the basics, which my youngest understands... or he’s choosing to ignore it. Either way from the reports, figures and analysis done the figure touted is double what the Torys are reporting and the method statements are solid.

oh a mate of mine has just become a father for the second time so can we request the media shut up for the next week.
 
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ELLERS said:
So why did you respond to it if it was important?
Truth is Watford You hijacked that post and have somehow turned it into some political message. Your last post sounded like one of the lefties on Sky FFS.
Anyway this is going around in circles and I would rather get my information from the bods in charge. I will leave to discuss with the ‘likely lads’ . Just don’t mention you know who. :emoticon-0127-lipss
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Im still living in your head I see Ellers ;).
Even on ignore :)
 
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ELLERS said:
So why did you respond to it if it was important?
Truth is Watford You hijacked that post and have somehow turned it into some political message. Your last post sounded like one of the lefties on Sky FFS.
Anyway this is going around in circles and I would rather get my information from the bods in charge. I will leave to discuss with the ‘likely lads’ . Just don’t mention you know who. :emoticon-0127-lipss
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However refuses to accept the information from those in charge from other countries... I think I’ve found a flaw here
 
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ELLERS said:
Not really, I am just supportive and understand this is an unprecedented time. while others spend all day bitching and moaning and having no answers I will wait. Too many experts especially on the other thread. I will listen to those who are important.
Sadly most people are moaning because it’s a Tory government.
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No most people are moaning at the government whom happen to be tories and that's where you get your wires completely crossed.
 
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ELLERS said:
So why did you respond to it if it was important?
Truth is Watford You hijacked that post and have somehow turned it into some political message. Your last post sounded like one of the lefties on Sky FFS.
Anyway this is going around in circles and I would rather get my information from the bods in charge. I will leave to discuss with the ‘likely lads’ . Just don’t mention you know who. :emoticon-0127-lipss
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Are you accepting it’s an incomplete number or do you think the official death toll is reflective of at least a vast majority of the deaths?

I’ve told you what the flaw is in the number. It’s not a secret though they’ve opted to not be transparent about it.
 
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