New stadium thread

How about telling HBIC to wind his ****in neck in every time someone has a view contrary to his instead of talking like an utter **** to one of the other regulars?

He was the ****in loudest when that other poster got chased off for suggesting we sell Kane...so he defo has previous of getting aggressive when he runs out of valid debate

maybe you and the other mods don’t see this pattern...but some of the posters do.

 

And you've contacted us to let us know, haven't you?

 

The mods banned D.G.C after they created a thread literally minutes after the Champions league final saying "See? We should sell Harry Kane!" PNP mentioned it several times, not least here

I already told you once today this is what happened, and yet what do you do? You just keep mouthing off regardless even though you know damn well that you're lying through your arsecheeks

This is why I have well and truly ****ing had it with a section of Spurs fans this season: they don't care about facts, they don't care about logic, they don't even ****ing care about the team, they're only interested in their bullshit little Narratives and keep repeating them no matter how false they are, and when they get called on it they never admit fault, they never take on this information and modify their opinions to something factual, they cry about how nobody listens to their completely false Narrative while also lying about how they "called out" somebody who rightly told them to cut the crap or some other line that allows them to continue not listening and forever get suckered by yet another ragebait headline that's not even true

Give it a rest, and stop crying because I don't take your works of fiction seriously, because as soon as the posts went back up it proved you're making **** up

...oh, and by the way, your good mate D.G.C sent abusive PMs to Alfie Conn while also PMing me begging me to block him so he could ****post without being called on it, so you really need to pick better friends

 

The first line of my post says not to throw insults.

The Fernandes stuff isn't facts....no-one knows what Spurs offered or why it was rejected.

 

All the article i see is that your offer was 45m EUROs which is approximately 40m pounds. That 7m difference before we even talk about the extra 4.2m of add ons (discounting all of the 16.8m you are saying wont be achieved). That 11m difference between yours and levy. I don't care if sporting mugged themselves off but by taking United offer and not yours they certainly got mugged off less.

People are complaining because for apparantly a cool 51m (on our calculation above), you could have had a very classy looking midfielder.

Instead of saying how he is not needed or that you don't have the 51m you keep insisting that sporting mugged themselves off, United paid less than the release clause and deflecting from the fact you wanted him but didn't think he was worth 51m

 

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As for the fernandes facts, we are all going off of what is said in the papers and what the sporting chairman says and that is the basis of our debate.

Else you could use the line for everything single thing as no one knows what goes on at spurs except what they choose to say (which could also be lies)

 

Sporting mugged themselves off..that means Levy won that psychological battle

Thats what matters and what some will boast about for years to come

 

In the summer Fernandes wanted to come and play for Poch, but Sporting thought they would get better offers and the deal fell through. In January he did not want to come and play for Mourinho. We still bid but there was no pressure from Fernandes on Sporting to accept our bid above United regardless of whether their bid was or was not above ours overall.

 

I don't have sny objection to debate. What I don't like is people attributing ulterior motives to ENIC and Levy. As far as I can see they are doing a well above average job given what they started with. Statements like they put 'profits above trophies' really rile me because there is no known way to do that. Spurs win a lot more matches now than pre-ENIC. Yet somehow ENIC have arranged this in a way that doesn't lead to trophies? It is completely preposterous.

 

Not ok imo.

I disagree with some of
@KingHotspur 's posts but we do not wanna end up likd the Arsenal or Chelsea boards which have all but died over the past few years cos their debates just turned into ****shows.

The thing I like about here is the opportunity to chat.

I have disagreed with posters about
1. Levy out stuff
2. Dele deserving a ban for his Corona virus "joke".
3. We need to spend more/ Enic or Levy have no ambition
4. Jose being made manager
5. Us Furloughing staff

Calling me a cretin wouldn't be ok....

Well not for that anyway

 

OK I have deleted the offending posts. Let's get back to the usual way we conduct our discussions/arguments on the Spurs board.

Thanks Guys

 

mate...that’s your opinion...ulterior motives? What do you know about the exact motives that you decide what is ulterior and what is not?

1 trophy under ENICS watch makes the flip side of the argument very valid...what is preposterous is some posters going all Ostrich about it.

Where were you when we were so close but for Levy deciding to shut up shop in the transfer windows...following our most successful PL season(s), not so long ago?

It’s fine that you want to always compare us to the 90’s but not for me...I’m 20 years on.

 

So how would you deliberately run a club to maximise profit without winning trophies? In ENIC's case they have vastly increased the number of matches that we have won. I'd really like to know the magic dust applied that stops that turning into trophies.
The 90s were no different to any other period in our history with the exception of 1960 to 1985 where we were one of the richest clubs. ENIC have gradually made us richer but we are still only about level with Arsenal and Chelsea miles behind the Manchester clubs and Liverpool.

 

What is the evidence that the blank transfer windows were Levy's choice? The alternative version that none of Pochettino's choices were available and he decided to keep the money for the future is equally likely.

 

No, people are complaining because that's all they are interested in doing

Also, allow me to point out the obvious flaw you continue to make: there was no offer from Man Utd last summer to compare to ours, and this is what the whiners/complainers fail to comprehend - they can't argue that we tried signing Fernandes on the cheap only to be gazumped by a slightly larger offer, because
a.) At which point did offering over £40m for a player constitute as "cheap"?
b.) There was no other offer, and Sporting mugged themselves believing there would be one

Also, more importantly, there's a whole hell of a lot of context - the Kryptonite of the Lunatic Fringe and their badly-written fiction - that they ignore when it comes to Fernandes: Poch's preferred system, both in pre-season and at the start of the season, was a 4312 formation (otherwise known in these parts as THAT BASTARD DIAMOND) but the point is that Fernandes wouldn't have played either in the 3 and not in the 1 either: he'd have played in a front 2 alongside Harry Kane

That's not guesswork on my part, you just have to look at how the team was set up in this period
Base of the midfield: Winks, Dier, Wanyama, Skipp
Centre midfield: Ndombele, Sissoko, Winks, Dele
Tip of midfield: Eriksen, Lo Celso, Dele, Lamela, Ndombele
Second striker: Son, Lucas, Lamela, Dele
Main striker: Kane, Son

Not to put too fine a point of it, Fernandes would have played in the second striker role alongside either Kane or Son, essentially in a similar role to what van der Vaart played when he was with us - and there's a reason this needs to be mentioned, which can be summed up in two words: Paulo Dybala

That's the one piece of the jigsaw that those howling about Fernandes every time he scratches his balls really don't want people to mention: once it was obvious that Sporting were only interested in playing silly buggers, we moved on to another target and made contact with Juve about signing Dybala, and while Sporting only wanted to waste our time Juve were far more accomodating, with Dybala flying in for a medical (which Fernandes never did) and, when it became clear image rights were holding up the deal, Juve attempted to help us in tidying them up before the deadline

That's the key difference: we made a bid for Dybala and Juve went to great lengths to try and make it happen, even though ultimately it failed due to there not being enough time to get it sorted (see also: our bid for Joao Moutinho, which was scuppered by third party bullshit, yet the Lunatic Fringe continue to claim that Levy lowballed Porto which has been debunked by numerous people, including Moutinho himself) yet we bid for Fernandes and Sporting did nothing but stall as they waited for a bid that never came

That's the reason the whiners and the complainers and whining and complaining: because they want people to forget we ever bid for Dybala when it was clear Sporting were taking the piss, that means they can pretend it never happened - and, as has been made abundantly clear with Spurlock's repeated claims that I "bullied" D.G.C off this site when in actual fact the mods banned him for being a colossal toolbag who'd harass posters via PM, they really do have a habit of clinging to Narratives rather than engaging with reality...

 

More insulting language aimed at people who don’t have the same opinion/view as you.

 

In reality the problem is down to the opposite: not that we didn't bring players in, but we failed to move them out

In the summer of 2018 the club were expecting to see the following players leave
Moussa Dembele, who was attracting interest from China
Toby Alderweireld, based on his contract situation
Vincent Janssen, deadwood who'd spent the previous season on loan at Fenerbahce
Georges-Kevin Nkoudou, deadwood who'd spent half the previous season on Burnley's bench

There was an additional reason to move these players on: we had no non-HG spots left in our squad, so to bring in a non-HG player we needed to move one out, which ultimately demonstrated that we made a mistake the summer we brought in Janssen and Nkoudou as that same summer we could have brought in either Timo Werner & Ousmane Dembele for less than what we paid for those two and potentially had players we didn't need to move on, or Connor Wickham and James Ward-Prowse who wouldn't have affected our non-HG quota

The problem is that we were unable to move any of them on
Dembele, injured during the World Cup and missed the Chinese transfer window
Alderweireld, nobody bid
Janssen, needed surgery for a broken foot and didn't even return to training until that November
Nkoudou, the footballing world forgot he existed (sort of like we did...)

On top of that, our number one transfer target for that summer was Tanguy Ndombele, who was on loan at Lyon from Amiens the previous season and we appeared to think that we could snatch him from under Lyon's noses sort of like we did when signing Alderweireld a few years before...the problem was that Lyon triggered the clause in the loan to make the deal permanent sometime in February/March of that year, and to the surprise of nobody Lyon weren't accommodating when we attempted to begin negotiations

So not only was our priority transfer target not coming to us, but also we were unable to create any space in our squad to even accommodate a backup plan, to the point where Janssen wasn't even in the squad until the following January

So the question is how Levy can be blamed for this, and the answer is...he can't.
Levy didn't break Janssen's foot
Levy didn't injury Dembele at the World Cup
Levy didn't not make a single bid for Alderweireld
Levy didn't create several dozen pacy wingers who would be just as viable targets as GKN who'd played more than a dozen games in two years

More than anything else, with the exception of GKN (as Poch can be blamed for his complete lack of playing time) nobody can be blamed for failing to open up the non-HG spots in the team, because all three are classic examples of "**** happens" - and if people are desperate for someone to blame, blame Paul Mitchell as he picked Nkoudou over Dembele...but they won't do that, of course they won't, as evidenced by the worrying number of people who fell for the ragebait about how Paul Mitchell apparently signed the entire Taurine FC Leipzig team that knocked us out of the Champions League...even though the majority of their team were at either Leipzig or Salzburg when Mitchell was still employed by Spurs

 

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Your ‘reply’ says all I need to know about you. I don’t need to add anything to that.

 

I rarely post these days. However, I remain logged on and read the comments on a daily basis. Despite the current hysteria, this Not606 Spurs site does retain a far superior option than the JA606 site which continues to be full of mass hysteria and over reaction.

I’m certainly no angel when it comes to calling people names on debating sites, particularly on the old BBC 606 days, but I now see that you can’t do that these days, and so I feel that HBIC’s comments are bang out of order. To call someone a “cretin” is surely crossing the boundaries.

I have to say, the response from the moderators to this has been amateurish. HBIC should surely have been put on at least a months gardening leave, during which time we could have all expressed our opinions politely without the fear of being pounced on by him.

Finally, as a continued employee of the club, please believe me that the “facts” he always uses to put people down, are most often complete rubbish.

Keep well everyone