Off Topic SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

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TIGERSCAVE said:
Having been up a ladder for the last 4 hours painting (verity therapeutic) I can confirm South Cave is the essential journey capital of the UK. I thought id measure it. My road 19 cars in 30 minutes!!!.... and I'm not on the main drag...
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Yeah, when I was driving to work in Brid at the start of the lockdown, there was hardly anything on the roads. Very different now. And yet stats yesterday at the briefing suggested just a 2% rise
 
originallambrettaman said:
It’s owned by the government, not run by them, it’s run by a team of logistics specialists, accountants and a civil servant (who presumably reports to the government) and it’s run from the NHS head office. You’re reading too much into the ‘wholly owned by the Secretary of State’ thing, it was just set up by the government to try and make NHS procurement more efficient (recent weeks would suggest there’s still some work to do in that regard).
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Set up by the Government to get supplies to the NHS
Owned by the Government
Trying to achieve an aim the Government want to achieve
Run by a team of non NHS staff on behalf of the Government
Managed by someone that reports to the Government and was appointed by the Government.

I’m not reading too much into anything

You’ve described it clearly

Pretty tricky to read it and come up with the conclusion in the photo that Cave posted that the problem in getting supplies to the NHS is down to “lazy arse NHS managers” though
 
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charon-the-ferryman said:
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Supply Chain Coordination Limited
About us
Supply Chain Coordination Limited (SCCL) is a company Registered in England and Wales, with company number 10881715, to act as the management function of the NHS Supply Chain. The company is wholly owned by the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care who provides direction to the Company through his appointed director on the Board and by a letter of entrustment a copy of which can be found here.

The Company acts as the management function within the NHS Supply Chain operating model for the NHS that will deliver savings of £2.4bn back into the frontline by 2023/2024. It will address the current fragmented procurement landscape which leads to widespread price variation in products and lack of consistency in the range of consumables used in the delivery of patient care. Instead it will leverage the buying power of the NHS by identifying the right clinically assured, high quality products at the best value through a more sustainable approach.

The Company is committed to providing strong commercial capability, a relentless approach to create value, gain competitive advantage and become the strategic procurement partner of choice for the NHS.



Delivering a new procurement model for the NHS
The new procurement model addresses the current fragmented procurement landscape which leads to widespread price variation in products.


whatever political hat you want to wear, you cant get away from the fact that it was a vehicle to bring together the various NHS buying teams who were in the market competing with each other because it was a complete mess and they were grossly inefficient - its all part of the NHS Supply Chain which reports to the Government of the day because its all part of the model to manage a Nationalised Industry which all reports to the Government - does anyone think that numerous competing NHS buyers would have made a better job of it - I don't but lets blame the Tories anyway because they delayed locking down, next it will be they didn't open the lock down quickly enough, then everyone will get more hindsight and blame the Government for a second wave - nothing to do with the knobheads who cant keep social distance from other people
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Huh?
You’re saying it was set up and run by the Govt to do better than the NHS would.
You can’t say that but then if it doesn’t work blame ‘lazy arse NHS managers’ (which was what the thing I challenged said)
That would be like giving it all back for the NHS to run, then if it didn’t work blaming the Government

it wouldn’t make any sense.
 
dennisboothstash said:
Huh?
You’re saying it was set up and run by the Govt to do better than the NHS would.
You can’t say that but then if it doesn’t work blame ‘lazy arse NHS managers’ (which was what the thing I challenged said)
That would be like giving it all back for the NHS to run, then if it didn’t work blaming the Government

it wouldn’t make any sense.
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https://www.hsj.co.uk/finance-and-e...-to-oversee-2bn-savings-drive/7021942.article

all part of Department of Health - NHS and SCCL - NHS staff Tupied over to SCCL to oversee changes and savings
 
Roads are miles busier. The lady in the local shop was saying how much busier it’s been recently I said I’d probably seen more cars on the 5 minute walk to the shop at 3pm on Friday than I did in the 10 miles journey to/from work at rush hour in the first week of lockdown.

I live on a main road traffic levels just seem like normal.

Also many more groups of cyclists and groups of people going shopping together (I’m guilty of that once, I stopped there quickly whilst taking my daughter out on her bike).
 
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highpeak tiger said:
WHO produced no evidence that people with antibodies in their blood were re-infected with Covid, jury still out.
At some point, we have to stop hiding, before economy collapses
Tricky decisions ahead
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Indeed
I wonder, with no scientific basis whatsoever, whether in actual fact it will be more likely to get a treatment than a vaccine?
Not all viruses have a vaccine. HIV for example doesn’t. All we’ve really managed is getting a way of treating it so you’re less likely to die of it, while trying to limit spread (admittedly easier with HIV than Covid-19)
 
Mr Hacker said:
Roads are miles busier. The lady in the local shop was saying how much busier it’s been recently I said I’d probably seen more cars on the 5 minute walk to the shop at 3pm on Friday than I did in the 10 miles journey to/from work at rush hour in the first week of lockdown.

I live on a main road traffic levels just seem like normal.

Also many more groups of cyclists and groups of people going shopping together (I’m guilty of that once, I stopped there quickly whilst taking my daughter out on her bike).
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I’ve been going out in the car every hour just to see how many idiots are out there in their cars
Some people
 
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