probably too young to have the heartache we have had
Takeover (Covid-19/20)
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Bruce will stay, we will waste 200 million, get relegated at Goodison, the Saudis will **** off and the club will go into administration.
I can still remember being constantly banned on the old 606 site for going on the Mackem board and ripping the piss out of Mick McCarthy as they were on their record breaking ****e season. Happy Days
Sorry lads. I know I will get **** for this but there's something about this takeover that's leaving me feeling a bit hallow about it all.
We will get rid of Ashley which is ****ing brilliant.
But let's not ignore the fact that the club is being used to whitewash Saudi's awful reputation.
I know you can say that loads of owner's have dubious moral standings, but the Saudis are on another level. They're like the level 10 boss if there was a game of fighting c*nts.
In short, happy we'll be backed and likely successful again, not happy about Saudi owners.
We will get rid of Ashley which is ****ing brilliant.
But let's not ignore the fact that the club is being used to whitewash Saudi's awful reputation.
I know you can say that loads of owner's have dubious moral standings, but the Saudis are on another level. They're like the level 10 boss if there was a game of fighting c*nts.
In short, happy we'll be backed and likely successful again, not happy about Saudi owners.
probably too young to have the heartache we have had
I did say ‘hope’ not ‘expect!’
Console yourself ... if it wasnt us it would be someone else .. the laws are still the same in newcastle...
You don't believe that either SA is modernising for the post oil period or that with extra scrutiny and media pages that comes with involvement in a major sporting activity, that this will add pressure on their kingdom to sort out their bad stuff? That's what I'm hoping for and I've got to have confidence that it will happen.
I'd like to be that naive but no. This is purely financial and about artificially improving their image.The Saudis are hundreds of years off what we would consider 'modernity' yet.
I know a lot of the Social justice ****ers would piss you off but I think they have a point on this one.
Those ones are fine by me if theyve been paying towards amnesty international or fighting against it, but the fans and reporters only making a meal if it now and not before their own football clubs position is under threat disgust me
I know there is a bit of that too, and an added resentment because the figures mentioned are so high.
I was hoping down the years that any potential takeover be non-Saudi, but unfortunately not the case.
All PL fans are complicit in some way shape or form as the game now is a commodity to be sold off. Nothing else.
I agree that the Saudi’s are bloody awful and would have preferred any other owner willing to make the club a project (ie decent training ground, facilities, infrastructure as a minimum).
However how does me not enjoying their takeover help in any way?
Indeed hoping that some of their sportswashing becomes first genuine globalisation and finally modernisation is probably fractionally less naive than thinking a fan protest would change the kingdom any faster.
We sadly couldn’t even get a fat cockney out of Newcastle - let alone a Wahabist kingdom out of the dark ages.
No, I can totally understand where that point is coming from.
I think they are “sportswashing”. For me though it’s a possible step by them that they are having to adjust to “our” standards and are moving towards “our” standards on the basis of having to in order that they can “sports wash” which, for me, can only be a good thing.
Two ways to get people to change being ignore them until they have to change and work with them to get them to gradually change.
The first method won’t work due to the oil and the money the Saudi’s have. It had an eventual impact on Rhodesia and more slowly on South Africa but neither of them held the monetary and/or political clout that the Saudi’s do.
Therefore, the second method is more likely to work in bringing their standards and our standards closer together.
So what should we do? Ignore them and they won’t change or work and talk with them and they may hopefully change. Oil won’t last forever and that is why the Saudi’s are doing this in planning ahead but we shouldn’t wait for the oil to run out before attempting to persuade them to change their standards.
I’m not saying NUFC or the fans will be doing this on a day to day or on a one to one basis but surely talking to people generally is going to achieve more than a non effective ban/ignore strategy. If this is but just one piece in a 10,000 piece jigsaw then so be it. It might take years it might never happen but at least we can try. You never know we might also learn something from them.
To some this might just be niave rationalisation of what’s happening but it’s genuinely not. For me if you want others to change their beliefs then you have to engage with them. Why else do i talk with that 6 fingered Mackem turncoat moron, Chippy? It’s definitely not for the drinks.
We are and we will have.
If NUFC fans hadn’t forced Ashley to give away 10000 free tickets and if we had continued selling out each game I don’t think Ashley would have left. We have become too much of a “bother” for him just when he doesn’t need it.
If this goes through. When this goes through we all can take some credit to having helped get rid of the Tyrant.
Fair enough. I’d certainly like to think the fans had something to do with it.
However, it also took 13 years and a global pandemic - so my original point still stands, I think.
Covid19, Ashley's major Sport Direct essential gaffe, drop in share price, disastrous year.
Add on having to give away thousands of tickets free.
Forced out through his own incompetence really. The guy stumbled on a winning formula with Sports Direct and then ****ed everything else he has touched since.
Add on having to give away thousands of tickets free.
Forced out through his own incompetence really. The guy stumbled on a winning formula with Sports Direct and then ****ed everything else he has touched since.
could be weeks of this to go .. by time it happens it will have lost its edge