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Let's Call The Whole Thing Off?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Stan, Mar 13, 2020.

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Should the football season be cancelled and declared null and void?

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  1. Prince Knut

    Prince Knut GC Thread Terminator

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    Well thanks for that, but I suggest you consign the party to the same venue as your CL win last season - it just isn't happening, mate. Every noise from the Prem talks of only two realistic endings - play to a (sort-of) finish, or curtail early. Null and void just isn't an option.

    But listen, you spoke about the unfairness you felt on missing out on a CL place because of the food-poisonings. Lasagnegate? Well, it still grates that we missed on the title in '89 when we were forced to play nine games in 26 days to 'preserve the integrity of the league'. Fairness and integrity my arse. And yes, if we're going back to the 80's I'll be the first to say that it wasn't fair that Liverpool fans got English teams banned from Europe (especially a rampant and on-form Everton), except to say that it was our government's decision, not UEFA's, to ban anyone but Liverpool.
     
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  2. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    Now that's more like it!

    On a serious note...I don't know people who just want it ended but the bottom line for me is that next season can not lose the cups or have a reduced league fixture list just to finish this one.

    There is serious talk of a reduced programme next season and no cups...that's just bollocks imho.

    We have 3 weeks more lockdown snd then there is talk of possibly slowly ending it bit by bit.

    Life will not get back to normal for many months, possibly over a year...so in many ways it don't really matter I guess.

    And as a side issue any restart of the league gives us an unfair advantage as Kane, Son, Davies, Sissoko and Bergwijn will be available after their long term injuries ... they'd have all missed all or most of the remaining games.
     
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    That first paragraph simply isn’t true. There’s very little chance of 14 of the 20 PL clubs voting to end the league with either current placings or PPG. It either plays out or it’ll be skipped.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52339058
     
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    I’m not fussed about players coming back, nothing will be 100% fair as it would if nothing had happened. I think behind closed doors needs to be a thing, it’s likely to have to happen next season for a time anyway so I think it’s the people saying it should not happen at all over that which grates me as they’d not be saying that if their teams weren’t ****.
    I do think the mentality of getting up for a new season as a supporter or player if you’ve been on the verge of achieving something great and the season gets scrapped is an issue though. It rewards the underperforming sides. Tbf the fairest solution would probably be no football until next year, finish this season and forget next season. Would be a long time without football though
     
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    Unless all restrictions are lifted by late July (really?), then next season is going to be different. It'll start later, and, according to some estimates, still be behind closed doors well into Autumn. They idea that if we wipe this season now, then next season will be like any other is a ****ing pipe dream. They're due to play early European club qualifiers in early July for a start - how will that happen? Certainly not the same as last season. Will all European ties have to be two-legged knockouts old-style? It's feasible - do away with the league stages?

    And the domestic cups? Will the Prem (especially if it's enlarged by two more teams) still enter the cup competitions at the stage they do now? There will be changes to next season, no matter if and when this one starts.
     
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    What's so baffling about treating all competitions equally and therefore the opportunity for all to complete their games equally? That is what I would consider as a fair outcome. You seem to be stuck on "fair" being about results and league positions, it was never about that. And yes the concern of the league is always going to be about money but it's not stopped anyone on here (whatever their motivation) from trying to second guess them. And we're all guilty of that.
     
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    This season will end in new territory and circumstances. Next season will have to start in those same circumstances, unless you want purity, rattles and bobble hats. In which case you could well be waiting till next calendar year. And the logic of that is that how this season ends has bugger all impact on how next season starts.
     
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    Plastro <laugh>
     
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    “The fairest solution” <laugh>
     
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    1. I never blame Liverpool for Uefas ban as that's not my opinion.

    2. Spurs played 10 games in the last 23 days in 82 which cost them a realistic chance of the title. So like I said ...**** happens. Pretty certain most fans could share similar stories about fixture pile ups effecting them too.

    3. If the season can safely be finished without impacting on next season then good...solves all the problems.

    My issue with integrity is that pundits keep saying this season must be completed for the integrity of the league but are will willing to :

    a) ignore the integrity issues of finishing the league behind closed doors (home teams lose the support that playing at home brings...look at Watford and Sheffield United... that could be vital for those playing for promotion, play off places, European places and against relegation)

    b) to have a world cup style football camp to finish the season kills the integrity as teams will miss out on home games altogether which are clearly vital.

    c) advocate losing the league and fa cups next season and having a shortened league season (so teams do not play every other team twice) in order to finish this season no matter how long it takes.

    These things (particularly c) show that they are not interested in league integrity.

    Like I said ... if teams lose out it is **** luck but in the big picture of things it's no big deal.
     
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    Well according to some of you there’s no way we can play behind closed doors yet full grounds will be a thing in time for the new season in August apparently....
    If closed doors is an issue, just have no football until the new year, sorted
     
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    Forget next season...**** the smaller clubs...make them miss a seasons income rather than 9 or 10 games income <yikes>
     
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    Your logic is 100% correct. Either this season finishes behind closed doors and next season's starts like that too - or we wait until there's no restrictions to start next season. Either way, how this season ends has **** all impact on next season whether it's behind closed doors or not.
     
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    Do you seriously think that supporters will be in grounds again this calendar year? This notion that we can start again in August as normal is delusion
     
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    No matter what happens it will be unfair for somebody, I'd rather not pretend it's all about the integrity of the league though when it's clear it's about money and nothing else. If there weren't such huge sums involved then it would have been binned with Liverpool given the title weeks ago imo.

    I'm pretty sure they will go for the behind closed doors option but I don't think that it will be possible as soon as some people are thinking. I don't think we should be sending ambulances and paramedics to football matches while our health service is so overwhelmed with a pandemic.

    Whilst it's undoubtedly true that some people are delighted about the prospect of not getting the title, it's getting a bit boring reading that any fan with a different opinion to them about this season is only doing so cos it's Liverpool.
     
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    "Liverpool “deserve” to be crowned Premier League champions but relegation from the Premier League will have to be scrapped if the season is abandoned due to the coronavirus crisis, the owner of Brighton & Hove Albion has proclaimed.

    Tony Bloom said a points-per-game calculation could be used to determine the final standings – including to award Liverpool’s first English title for 30 years – but warned there was no chance clubs would vote to condemn any of their number to the drop."
     
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    1. Playing a season of games with no crowds is a level playing field.

    2. If the season starts behind vlosed doors and crowds are reintroduced the clubs wills all be aware of this possibility before hand and would have accepted it.

    3. So to finish this season is so important that we should just completely **** over next season ... which will see clubs go out of business, particularly in the lower and non leagues?
     
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    Most sensible post on the entire thread <applause>
     
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