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Off Topic Corona virus - non football

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by SAFCDRUM, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Best post on this thread Becs. Well said you.
     
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  2. Jerry lee

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    Pity labour never had a more electable leader at the last election
     
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  3. Sandy Camel

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    The system isn't so much skewed to allow them to avoid tax, it's created by them to allow them to get away with it. And let's be fair, those people at the top couldn't care less about you or me, we're not important.
     
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  4. Sandy Camel

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    Think you're going to be disapointed here marra as there is no going back to how it was before. I don't even think the world is not going to recover from this.Gatherings of people? International travel? Non-essential shops being open? Aye, like that is going to happen in the next six weeks.
     
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  5. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    Can you imagine Corbyn and Abbott being in charge trying to sort this lot out.
    And you think Boris has made some mistakes.
     
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  6. Jerry lee

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    There still rumblings about the lockdown in the government now about the strategy exit

    Ill bet my last bottle of frosty jacks won't be full lock down by June
     
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  7. Flash Gordon

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    I'm a little concerned about the reporting on the daily death numbers. It's a very inaccurate stat due to the delays in registering deaths that happened before.

    Looking at the below, our worst day has been far worse than the 980 mentioned yesterday and in fact we've probably had several worse days in April than we had in March.

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  8. Jerry lee

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    Read my post I did say more electable leader nee way was jezza going to get in
     
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  9. Flash Gordon

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    That's whataboutery at its finest, you've no idea how they would have handled it.

    I would suggest, based on their general political views that people would have got financial support sooner and the NHS would have got support sooner. I also believe that lockdown would have happened sooner and their would have been no initial pondering over the policy of herd immunity. It would have been dismissed. So I'd say with confidence that the death toll currently would be lower.

    What remains to be seen however is the effect on the economy and the longer impacts. Labour being more drastic initially would have hurt the economy more in the long term and we don't know what the impact of that would be.
     
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  10. Sandy Camel

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    Aye, every person in the UK will have caught it by then and we'll all have immunity and can go running round like we did last summer. Ah ****, no, we won't have immunity will we. So what we will get is the virus breaking out again in large numbers and ICU gets swamped again and we all go back into lock down. This is going to take years to get over and recover from, not weeks.
     
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  11. mrs em

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    The thing is none of us who are being asked to stay at home are holed up in an Anne Frank situation are we ?
     
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  12. rooch 3

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    Who will you vote for next time instead?
     
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  13. DH4

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    As much as I hate the Tories, I think Labour would have done exactly the same thing as the Tories are now. Politicians are now merely mouthpieces for the scientific and medical experts who are really running the country now. The fact remains however that the NHS was starved of funds before this whole thing started and as such was not ready for such an emergency.
     
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  14. rooch 3

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    On the other hand you could say it was good planning as there would of been no pot to give anybody anything and the country would go bust!
     
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  15. DH4

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    The "pot" was already there. It never disappeared. Can you tell me exactly who we owed money to out of curiosity.
     
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    Yes she is . I think part of this is “ look at me doing my opposition job”. Anything to make the govt’s job more difficult - even though she’s risking more life. She ‘ll be asking for a national news interview next so she can advise about the list of rights that can be applied to allow for house parties, visits to friends houses , large teenage get togethers in the park . She needs taking to task about this . In fact I’m going to ask my ( labour ) MP for comment .
     
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  17. rooch 3

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    Did I say we owed money to somebody, class it as savings that you use when it’s really needed <ok>
     
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    The UK national debt is the total amount of money the British government owes to the private sector and other purchasers of UK gilts. In Nov 2018, UK public-sector net debt was £1,7951.3 billion, equivalent to around 84% of GDP.
    UK government debt and deficit: September 2019
    General government gross debt was £1,821.9 billion at the end of the financial year ending March 2019, equivalent to 84.0% of gross domestic product (GDP) and 24.0 percentage points above the reference value of 60.0% set out in the protocol on the excessive deficit procedure.
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/gove...tdebtanddeficitforeurostatmaast/september2019

    It should be interesting to see how this has changed as the Bank of England continues to print money...
     
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  19. DH4

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    But we could still pay £8 billion for "crossrail" to serve only the people of the South East and increase central government funding to Tory South East councils, whilst at the same time cutting central government funding to North East Labour councils causing cuts to public services leading to the closure of libraries and bus routes for example. Austerity my arse.
     
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  20. DH4

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    We owe money to the same banks that we gave interest free loans to from taxpayers money to stop them going bust because of their corruption and greed.
     
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