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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. SW Ranger

    SW Ranger Well-Known Member

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    What about those people travelling to work everyday - not shopping once a week.
    What about when you’re outside your house, putting out your bins?
    What about when you’re walking your dog or doing your daily exercise?
    What do you wear between the house and where you have left your mask ‘away from the house’?
    Where do I leave my mask if I live in an apartment or tower block?
    Do I change my mask more often than my underwear?
    You have raised yet more questions now.
     
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  2. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    I can't speak for anyone else.
    I don't need a mask when travelling to work or whilst at work.
    I personally wouldn't wear a mask unless in a shop with lots of other people.
     
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    I get both sides of this and everyone should do what they see fit to look after themselves and their family. To come out 2 months odd into the pandemic and tell us that our top scientists are looking into the possibility of public face masks being a necessary step is quite frankly pathetic. I'm not saying anyone should or shouldn't wear them, I'm saying ffs a ten year old could have suggested that!
     
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  4. sb_73

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    Not angry at you, just at the content of the post, which you were just reporting. If it gives you peace of mind, fine, its entirely your choice, though I’d be interested to learn how you disinfect your masks after use. My beef would be with those issuing official guidance. See my response to Turkish.

    They found traces of the virus in the cruise ship in Japan two weeks after the last passenger left it.
     
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  5. daverangers

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    Just announced that the confinement in France will go beyond the April 15th deadline. Macron will address the nation on Monday night so I guess we'll know more then.
     
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    Just been told all staff to be paid 100% of their wage up-to 40 hours for an extra two weeks
    That's two weeks longer than the official lockdown
    I normally would do 65 hours plus a week so whilst it's a cut it's better than nothing
    **** all traffic on the road today
    Only the second time I've had to go in so far
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Today's totals
    29 new cases
    1239 in total
    317 people have recovered which is up 35 on yesterday so in 24 hours more people have recovered than tested positive
    Most positive cases in the 20 to 29 age range
    Still only the one death so far

    From midnight tonight anyone coming here will be put into quarantine
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    New Zealand isn’t just flattening the curve. It’s squashing it.
    Ardern calls the Easter Bunny an 'essential worker'


    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern assured children on April 6 that the Easter Bunny could make an appearance despite social distancing. (Reuters)
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    HAVELOCK NORTH, New Zealand — It has been less than two weeks since New Zealand imposed a coronavirus lockdown so strict that swimming at the beach and hunting in bushland were banned. They’re not essential activities, plus we have been told not to do anything that could divert emergency services’ resources.

    People have been walking and biking strictly in their neighborhoods; lining up six feet apart outside grocery stores while waiting to go one in, one out; and joining swaths of the world in discovering the vagaries of home schooling.

    It took only 10 days for signs that the approach here — “elimination” rather than the “containment” goal of the United States and other Western countries — is working.


    The number of new cases has fallen for two consecutive days, despite a huge increase in testing, with 54 confirmed or probable cases reported Tuesday. That means the number of people who have recovered, 65, exceeds the number of daily infections.

    “The signs are promising,” Ashley Bloomfield, New Zealand’s director general of health, said Tuesday.

    The speedy results have led to calls to ease the lockdown, even a little, for the four-day Easter holiday, especially as summer lingers on.


    New Zealand prime minister 'checks in' on the country via Facebook Live

    New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern addressed the country March 25, in a Facebook Live post as a month-long lockdown was set to take effect. (The Washington Post)
    But Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is adamant that New Zealand will complete four weeks of lockdown — two full 14-day incubation cycles — before letting up. She has, however, given the Easter Bunny special dispensation to work this weekend.

    How has New Zealand, a country I still call home after 20 years abroad, controlled its outbreak so quickly?

    When I arrived here a month ago, traveling from the epicenter of China via the hot spot of South Korea, I was shocked that officials did not take my temperature at the airport. I was told simply to self-isolate for 14 days (I did).

    But with the coronavirus tearing through Italy and spreading in the United States, this heavily tourism-reliant country — it gets about 4 million international visitors a year, almost as many as its total population — did the previously unthinkable: It shut its borders to foreigners March 19.

    Two days later, Ardern delivered a televised address from her office — the first time since 1982 that an Oval Office-style speech had been given — announcing a coronavirus response alert plan involving four stages, with a full lockdown being Level 4.

    A group of influential leaders got on the phone with her the following day to urge moving to Level 4.

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    The deserted central business district of Wellington, New Zealand, on March 26, after the country’s lockdown kicked in. (Marty Melville/AFP/Getty Images)
    “We were hugely worried about what was happening in Italy and Spain,” said one of them, Stephen Tindall, founder of the Warehouse, New Zealand’s largest retailer.


    “If we didn’t shut down quickly enough, the pain was going to go on for a very long time,” he said in a phone interview. “It’s inevitable that we will have to shut down anyway, so we would rather it be sharp and short.”

    On March 23, a Monday, Ardern delivered another statement and gave the country 48 hours to prepare for a Level 4 lockdown. “We currently have 102 cases,” she said. “But so did Italy once.”

    From that Wednesday night, everyone had to stay at home for four weeks unless they worked in an essential job, such as health care, or were going to the supermarket or exercising near their home.

    A few hours before midnight, my phone sounded a siren as it delivered a text alert: “Act as if you have COVID-19. This will save lives,” it said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. “Let’s all do our bit to unite against COVID-19.”

    From the earliest stages, Ardern and her team have spoken in simple language: Stay home. Don’t have contact with anyone outside your household “bubble.” Be kind. We’re all in this together.

    She’s usually done this from the podium of news conferences where she has discussed everything from the price of cauliflowers to wage subsidies. But she also regularly gives updates and answers questions on Facebook, including one done while sitting at home — possibly on her bed — in a sweatshirt.

    There have been critics and rebels. The police have been ordering surfers out of the waves. The health minister was caught mountain biking and taking his family to the beach. He was publicly chastised by Ardern, who said she would have fired him if it weren’t disruptive to the crisis response.

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    A lone cyclist at sunrise in Auckland, New Zealand, on March 26. The country’s strict lockdown measures appear to be paying off. (Phil Walter/AFP/Getty Images)
    But there has been a sense of collective purpose. The police phone line for nonemergencies has been overwhelmed with people calling to “dob in,” as we say here, reporting others they think are breaching the rules.

    The response has been notably apolitical. The center-right National Party has clearly made a decision not to criticize the government’s response — and in fact to help it.

    These efforts appear to be paying off.

    After peaking at 89 on April 2, the daily number of new cases ticked down to 67 on Monday and 54 on Tuesday. The vast majority of cases can be linked to international travel, making contact tracing relatively easy, and many are consolidated into identifiable clusters.

    Because there is little evidence of community transmission, New Zealand does not have huge numbers of people overwhelming hospitals. Only one person, an elderly woman with existing health problems, has died.



    The nascent slowdown reflected “a triumph of science and leadership,” said Michael Baker, a professor of public health at the University of Otago and one of the country’s top epidemiologists.

    “Jacinda approached this decisively and unequivocally and faced the threat,” said Baker, who had been advocating for an “elimination” approach since reading a World Health Organization report from China in February.

    “Other countries have had a gradual ramp-up, but our approach is exactly the opposite,” he said. While other Western countries have tried to slow the disease and “flatten the curve,” New Zealand has tried to stamp it out entirely.

    Some American doctors have urged the Trump administration to pursue the elimination approach.


    In New Zealand’s case, being a small island nation makes it easy to shut borders. It also helps that the country often feels like a village where everyone knows everyone else, so messages can travel quickly.

    New Zealand’s next challenge: once the virus is eliminated, how to keep it that way.


    The government won’t be able to allow people free entry into New Zealand until the virus has stopped circulating globally or a vaccine has been developed, Baker said. But with strict border control, restrictions could be gradually relaxed, and life inside New Zealand could return to almost normal.

    Ardern has said her government is considering mandatory quarantine for New Zealanders returning to the country post-lockdown. “I really want a watertight system at our border,” she said this week, “and I think we can do better on that.”

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    A poster hangs in the window of a closed store during lockdown in Wellington, New Zealand, on April 2. (Birgit Krippner/Bloomberg News)
     
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  9. rangercol

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    There's such conflicting information out there.
    I thought the virus died after a few days not being in a host.
    Do you wash everything you were wearing in a shop as soon as you get home?
    Seems nothing is fullproof.
    I'm just doing what I can mate.
     
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  10. Staines R's

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    Well at least I got to wear my stab vest tonight......makes a change from the usual COVID jobs :)
     
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  11. Bwood_Ranger

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    The government might be scrutinised a bit today.



    I’m joking, obviously.
     
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  12. Tramore Ranger

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    Already seen a UK registered car here in tramore .....FFS what part of "stay at home" do people not understand?
     
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  13. sb_73

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    Aaah, zombie attack again?
     
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    So whats it like in other R's parts of the uk?

    Here in little old Nuneaton there are people out and about on foot everywhere and the roads are quite busy.

    Surely everyone of them cant be going shopping?

    It appears the lockdown has been called off without any kind of official announcement. Think i might go to the pub
     
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    That’s all you can do Col. plenty of good information on NHS site as well as links on BBC. Follow their guidelines and don’t listen to Karen or Kevin on social media. Too many experts out there who were flipping burgers last week and are now doctors.
    Re mask... there seems to be 2 conflicting messages. However Prof Simon Clarke says if it makes you feel happy, then wear it.
    Use common sense and stay safe. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Very similar up here in west yorkshire yesterday. Went out after 14 days isolation. To be fair the local supermarket was the least busy place. Saw lots of fellow tradesmen working but then they are being told they can so hey ho. One or two people in the masks and gloves. But in general it looked a lot busier.
     
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    Should have this guy in charge of isolation...

     
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    MPs offered £10k each to help them ‘work from home’.

    Passport office staff protest about being asked to go back to work, in socially distanced shifts. Presumably they are on full pay at home.
     
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    In deepest, darkest Hampshire it's noticeably quieter on the roads, but more people out on foot, walking dogs, running etc. Generally, people are being respectful and giving each other space. The biggest pain seems to be the cyclists around here, who still seem incapable of tinkling a bell and slowing down when they approach you from behind down many of the dual purpose paths and pavements. I'm getting a bit shouty with them, but they generally just tell me to "**** off" over their shoulders as they whizz by, bless 'em.
     
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  20. Bwood_Ranger

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    The MP thing is just ridiculous. Read the room guys ffs. Who needs £10k to take their laptop home?
     
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