Off Topic Coronavirus and NOTHING to do with football thread

You should try thinking outside of the confines of what you read in the Guardian, it would be quite liberating.

 

Is the Guardian organising a whip round to send Boris a get well card?

 

I think they would get a better response if they organised a visit to his mate across the pond.

 

Several No 10 staff will now have to self-isolate too, as well as possibly the Chancellor and Health Secretary who spent time with him this week. Cumming as well? What about the top medical experts he has been mixing with? There are dozens of people working there, any of them could have to now stay away.

 

Germany and Holland yesterday blocked the issuing of joint bonds to help fellow euro member states finance a recovery. They also blocked funds from the European Stability Mechanism bailout fund. Nation states are realising they can only rely on themselves, the phoney unity is evaporating.

 

Why did they do that?

 

Probably the governments of the richer EU member states, Germany, Holland Belgium, realise they do not have enough political support from their respective electorates to finance the more desperate need of other member states.

 

So you post without knowing much about it as you think it will make a point.

 

I'm just giving you the facts about the lack of empathy in the EU.. There is little unity amongst EU members at the moment. Why the richer nations are letting you down is something you should be asking them.

 

This is the most spurious crap.

Poster? Oooh. All the intellectual content you would expect from:

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Because something rattles around in that dustbowl of yours you call a brain, does not make it a fact. Kind of like the other baseless assertions that make up the majority of your content.

 

Johnson told reporters at a press conference in Downing Street: "I am shaking hands. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were coronavirus patients and I was shaking hands with everybody, you will be pleased to know, and I continue to shake hands.

This just maybe shows what a serious lack of judgement the man has.

 

What can you say? ‘Democracy’ of a majority of selfish people has dealt us this utter fool.

 

Making off like he was one of the tailors at the end of ‘The Emperor’s New Clothes’.

 

May I suggest that everyone reads ''Heroic Failure' by fintan O'Toole. You may not agreewith it, but I doubt there is a more thorough lucid, accurate, funny (painfully so in some parts) exposition of the march to Brexit, Then perhaps we can restart the discussion in a better informed way. BTW, the author is not a UK citizen, so has no axe to grind.

 

"After the previous lack of empathy they were shamed into action. Better late than not at all."

Sounds like a perfect description of the present Govt ironcially.....

 

Documents show that officials working under former health secretary Jeremy Hunt told medical advisers three years ago to “reconsider” a formal recommendation that eye protection should be provided to all healthcare professionals who have close contact with pandemic influenza patients.

The expert advice was watered down after an “economic assessment” found a medical recommendation about providing visors or safety glasses to all hospital, ambulance and social care staff who have close contact with pandemic influenza patients would “substantially increase” the costs of stockpiling.

The documents may help explain a devastating shortage of protective gear in the NHS that is hampering efforts by medical staff to manage the Covid-19 virus pandemic.

So now we are scrambling around trying to get this equipement. This shows just how badly the government has handled the NHS. To see Johnson out applauding the workers that he and his party have put at risk smacks of the greatest hypocrisy.

 

As previously explained the same thing happened with the Labour government in 2003 & 2010. Governments of all persuasions have not gambled on stockpiling vast amounts of medical equipment with a shelf life of just a few years. My old company has a 40,000 sqft warehouse holding up to five thousand pallets. The government would need to multiply this storage by 10 and throw away the stock every few years if unused and unable to be be re-sterilised. It is not just eye protection but masks, respirators, gowns, gloves, and drapes. All single use with a shelf life.

 

Would love a copy of that - unfortunately his tweets are protected, meaning he has probably blocked me.

I must have upset him over something in the past...