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  1. Plymborn

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    Start of the spring equinox folks....supposed to be the run in towards promotion....:huh:.
     
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    This might stay a bit empty for a while plym. Can't think why...........
     
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    Talk about a Bury player having a years ban for a drugs violation....Jan 2019 to Jan 2020....any idea who ?
     
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    Well it would certainly explain why someone we know seems to be operating as if he was in a different reality to the 21 players on the pitch.......
     
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    Interestingly this subject has not shown up on the pasoti website (unless I've missed it)....why not ?....has it been stamped on by those in charge.....humm.

    ATD of course have mentioned it once or twice.

    Please explain your comments notDistant....to us less informed exiles.
     
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    The story is to do with the Doctor at Bury who gave somebody a dose of something he shouldn't have before he got authorisation and then tried to cover it up by doing an application after the event. As far as I could see the player involved has not been mentioned at all as they were the innocent party. Nothing to say he is now one of our's or not.
     
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    Until you mentioned it, I hadn't heard anything about it. I meant Mayor though, definitely plays a different game to mere mortals.
     
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    I expect if he scored goals he would be elsewhere....not in Div 2.
     
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    End of Season ?

    The Football Association appears to have taken the first step towards conceding the the English football season cannot be completed because of the coronavirus pandemic, by ordering clubs at the bottom of the pyramid to end their season immediately.

    If the season ends now, there are two realistic choices. The first is to declare the season null and void, which would mean no promotion, relegation or trophy winners, depriving Liverpool of the Premier League title, who are 25 points clear of second-placed Manchester City.

    The second would be to decide all matters on how the tables stand now.

    It remains to be seen whether the game's governing body is willing to make such a controversial call and all possibilities of resuming the season will have to be exhausted first.

    However, a precedent has now been set in non-league football.

    Part of an article in the Daily Telegraph Sport.... 25/3/20.
     
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    They can't possibly do that.
     
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    You sound like an Exeter supporter.
     
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    They'll scrap the minor cups in 20/21 and give the PL what they want anyway: no replays in the FA Cup and possibly fewer international breaks.

    Once we restart 19/20, it'll be Saturday. Tuesday non stop and the current season can be finished in 5 weeks. The early games at least may have to be played behind closed doors or with restricted ticket sales.

    Late start to the new season and there you go.

    That's assuming of course that Coronavurus can be brought under control by somewhere around the middle of June..
     
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    Former owner and Chairman Dan McCauley has died at the age of 84....had been in a home for the last three years.
     
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    Despite the stick the bloke got from the supporters I actually liked him. He took stick when it wasn't deserved and put a fair bit of his own brass into the club. Almost made it to the top with Shilton as Manager. Sorry to hear he's gone.
     
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    Today's Times says that if the PL was not to play its remaining fixtures, £800m would be repayable to the TV companies. The split wouldn't be even: the top clubs share would be about £60m each, scaling down from there.

    Since the clubs will have spent that money on player contracts, that would be a bit awkward.
     
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    The three National leagues have been indefinitely suspended.....that is the National League and it's North and South Divisions.

    Because of only one club this season being relegated from EFL Div 2....there is a possibility that Barrow who are top of the National League by 4 pts might be voted into Div 2.

    It's hard to see how the EFL can finish this season....so the possibility of the 2019/29 season being expunged is quite possible with no promotion or relegation.

    As for the Premiership .....haven't Liverpool already got enough points to win the league.....?....who is going to tell them otherwise.
     
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    One way or another, they can't expunge a season which has only a few games left to play. As indicated above, the financial consequences are colossal and although the sums involved in the lower leagues are smaller, so are the clubs' abilities to withstand a financial shock.

    Of course, the numbers I quoted don't include any potential law suits from clubs denied promotion or forced into relegation. Even if these were ultimately unsuccessful, they'd create a situation in which the make-up of the various divisions was in dispute when the new season kicked-off. The authorities can't get themselves into that quagmire.

    One possible solution I saw being floated was that only enough outstanding games would be played behind closed doors to bring all teams up to the same number of games completed.

    Swindon have a game in hand and could overtake Crewe in the race to go up as champions. Exeter have played 37 like us, so neither club would play again and we'd go up automatically in 3rd place - Cheltenham do have one game in hand but are four points behind us. Port Vale and Bradford have played 37 so the play-offs would remain as they are now. Stevenage would be dead and buried but with 10 games to play, would feel hard done-by if they were relegated now.

    What would happen with the play-offs? Maybe 2 x 1 leg play-off televised semis behind closed doors and then a televised final behind closed doors.

    Because of the huge money involved, I can't see that washing in the PL. Four points covers positions 15 down to 19. Norwich are farther adrift but have 9 games to recover if the season ran its full length. At the top, Man U are only 3 points short of a lucrative guaranteed Champions League place at the expense of Chelsea. Anyone from 5th (presently Man U) down to 9th (Arsenal) could hope for the Europa League if the PL ran it's full course. That includes Wolves and Sheffield United, both of whom deserve to prosper at the expense of better known clubs, given the great football they play on (relatively) limited budgets.

    In probably the most vicious battle, the automatic promotion places from the Championship look relatively settled, with West Brom in 2nd six points clear of 3rd placed Fulham, but below Fulham, it's dog-eat-dog with 7 points covering 4th down to 11th.

    If that bottom of the PL to top of the Championship doesn't give rise to law suits if all the games aren't played, then I'll be astounded. I can't imagine the clubs involved would accept only playing games in hand either.

    Having mentioned Sheffield United, Ian Holloway said we played like them after we beat Grimsby. He's right actually, high energy end to end play, overloading the opposition at the front AND the back and with underlapping centre-backs supplementing the wing backs, especially when McFazdean is playing. I have to say centre backs ploughing up the field with the ball gives me the heebee-jeebies but thta's the way Lowe does it!
     
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    The Belgian Professional League has been cancelled....the first of the European Leagues to make such a decision.

    It was made easier for them by Club Bruges being 15 pts clear with only one game left ...so already champions....surprised to hear that Belgium's League was so advanced by early March.

    A working group will decide other relegation and promotion issues.

    With the coronavirus pandemic still to reach its most horrible conclusions in Europe....other leagues might start to decide similar endings to their seasons and make way for a clean start maybe by the end of September to start a new season with a clean slate.

    I know that money rules... but for once it should not determine the outcome this time....this pandemic has swept away such thoughts of financial requirements for once.....this is the greatest tragedy for a 100 years since the Spanish flu wiped out millions....that's not including WW2 of course.
     
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    Financial and legal outcomes won't affect the virus one way or another. They won't save a single life or take one. So parties who feel they've been badly done by will seek redress.

    If you take the case of TV rights, the football clubs have been paid for something they may not supply. I don't know what force majeure clauses apply but as a principle that's clearly wrong and needs to be reversed.

    On a more local matter, Crewe. Swindon and Argyle will have every reason to object if they are not either promoted automatically or given the opportunity to complete the season. Other clubs will have different opinions!
     
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    The English Football League have announced that they require 56 days to finish the season......that time begins when the season is deemed fit to start.

    No team must start training together until 16th May.

    There is a possibility that the start of next season could be delayed.

    So looks like we've still got work to do to get automatic promotion this season.....need to hit the ground running when things get going.
     
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