Because of how Spurs are run, I don’t think he can do too much damage in a couple of transfer windows so when he is sacked in October, the new manager won’t walk into an unbalanced and squad with too many 30plus players.
except this season mourinho still has more ppg than pochy by a long way so whatever poch was doing was **** or maybe the team is just broken (and now even more broke because poch actually had son and kane)
You always bore me so it's nothing new I agree about Levy. Firmly under the microscope now. I've made no secret how fuming I am with the prices these days and the reality is he's taken his eye off the football for longer than he should have. As for Jose, it's just too early for me to judge, especially when he's missing our two best players and captain (albeit the latter is a **** captain tbh). I want him to have the chance to build his own squad, his two signings in January have been impressive, especially Bergwijn so I want to see more of that in the summer. But when you look at what he has to work with at the moment, it's pretty embarrassing: Hugo - waaaay past his best but not as big as a concern as others. Gazza - didn't take his opportunity, will only ever be a number two. Toby - ****, has been. Jan - has been, aged 5 years over the summer. Foyth - unfavoured, promising but with too many lapses in concentration. Aurier - defensive liability, impressive attacking instincts. KWP - not good enough for us, largely our fault too. Davies - broken by injuries. Rose - finished. Skipp - promising, the one player I really can't understand not getting more game time. Dier - finished. Sissoko - grafter but not a first choice player. Wanyama - finished. Winks - ****. Lucas - inconsistent. Alli - ****. Lamela - never available. Parrott - not ready, mentally and physically. Didn't include any of the new boys but when you look at that, it's no real surprise we're struggling when Son/ Kane can't bail us out and it's why I personally will give Jose the benefit of the doubt. He hasn't helped himself at times but there's far too much **** to deal with to expect anything too great right now.
These are dark days, the darkest for over 10 years I have probably not been so disappointed with what is going on at the club since the period after out last trophy win when Ramos was in charge. Yes we had difficult times under AVB and Sherwood, but at least there were occasional performances in those periods that bought some joy. We have now been awful for over a year, in that time we have had the Ajax match, and 3 memorable matches with City, other than that it has been a constant struggle with awful football and poor results. I am not pointing the finger at anyone in particular but it is clear that neither Poch or Jose have been able to find the answer from within the club, I don’t know what happened at the end of Pochs reign, but whatever it was we have not solved anything by appointing Jose as yet. I have always been Pro Levy/Lewis/Enic, and I am genuinely grateful for the everything that they have done for us to this point, but if they are not up to the job of providing the players required to build on what has been our most consistent period of league performance in the clubs history then maybe it is time to sell to someone who will otherwise the 90s beckons again, and I really thought that we had left that era and the struggles of the Sugar era behind.
I think you all need to suck it up and get used to what a transitional period looks like. This season was done before Jose walked in, the dynamics were set by Poch and his troopers. I refuse to have a meltdown after every game with that fact in mind. Let the man have an attempt at building a first team in his own vision then you can all have your Tottenham back after that and we can go for one of them project guise you all love. Who no doubt will be ****ed off and disregarded once he really needs backing. Then we can all start another project
Levy needs to get sacked but it’s not possible Bruno Fernandes should have been our player. Doesn’t matter that SL put the price up. That’s because Fernandes is worth it. Let’s not forget the silly buggers Levy plays over selling our players...skimping over the odd mill here and there costs us years on the pitch. Blaming someone who’s been here for 3/4 months for all our woes just because people struggle to admit the hierarchy have no ambition for on field success. agendas
top class mate everyone knew it...50 mill is peanuts...we paid 70 mill for the fat waster Ndombele who never fancies it...he needs to up his game. Hey once again...and rightly so I suppose...people are saying let him have this season to settle...however Jose doesn’t get 3 months Levy a football man my arse...no savvy whatsoever
Ndombele is a good player but his fitness this season has been absolutely awful and he needs to come back next season in tip top shape. If he doesn’t then yeah he will go down as the biggest waste of money ever by Spurs. But if he comes back fit and injury free then we could see him be a vital part of the club for the next 5 years plus. Mourinho on the other hand hasn’t showed me anything to dispel my concerns that he’s a bad fit for Spurs and that he isn’t finished as a manager. Yes he’s had a lot of injuries to deal with and he’s not his team but every big game so far (bar the Man City game) he has been tactically outclassed by the opposition managers. Also he seems to pick the weirdest formations and plays players in positions that don’t suit them.
The obvious counterpoint to that is to point out three things i.) Gaining points doesn't make a disjointed performance a good one ii.) The complete failure to get a single point against Man Utd or Chelsea iii.) We needed replays to beat Middlesbrough and Southampton in the FA Cup As disjointed as some of our performances were under Poch, it was still possible to see what he was trying to do but was unable to due to a combination of certain players phoning it in and other players being injured or lacking fitness - but under Steptonho we can't even say that, other than being able to say that our tactics seem to involve lulling the opponents into a very real sense of security by saying "Go on, give the ball to your left winger, nobody will get in his way"
I would counter that by: 1. Not sure there were any decent performances under poch, every one seemed to be what is poch doing, whys eriksen and rose playing, whys he playing this bastard diamond formation etc. 2. If you are complaining about losing points to chelsea and united, i hate what you think of losing points to brighton, newcastle etc would be 3. Replays but you went through. Under poch you went out to Colchester! You may not think he is the right manager (dour tactics, doesnt like youth minus tangaga) but not sure how you can praise poch then criticise mourinho who is doing better (currently)
1. Except there were decent performances under Poch: the win over Palace, the win over Southampton with ten men, and while we lost our performance against Leicester was very good until the team lost their heads after VAR ruled out Aurier's goal - plus the two CL wins over Red Star, which by complete coincidence were games where Poch held his nerve and dropped Eriksen and gave Lo Celso license to play his game 2. How about dropping three points to Southampton? Or dropping two to Norwich? The reason I highlighted the Man Utd and Chelsea games as those were ones we absolutely had to win, and he pissed away all three points in every single one of them, so instead of closing the gap or even overtaking those teams we let them put some daylight between us and them 3. Our reserves went out to Colchester. Our first team needed replays against Middlesbrough and Southampton. There's an obvious difference
I believe that the reason Bruno Fernandes didn’t join us in January is because Pochettino was no longer manager. He was set to join us in the summer but there were complications none of us can be aware of. With Mourinho as manager he would be all too aware of the likely football style, or lack of , that there would be played and thought that Manure was a better bet, particularly as Poch was being strongly tipped to be the next manager there.
It’s pathetic the way some fans are getting on Mourinho’s back, when it is abundantly clear to anyone with even a modicum of intelligence that the problems inherited by him are ones that had been allowed to fester in the club for sometime. What do these so-called fans expect Mourhino to do in such a short space of time, with the same players who didn’t perform under Poch, and missing our two best goal scorers? If there is anyone who deserves to be upset, it’s Mourinho, as I suspect that he was sold a crock of **** by Levy.
More importantly, the circumstances changed - at both Spurs and Sporting For Sporting the circumstances changed in an obvious way, namely they had Fernandes sign a new contract to guarantee they'd be rebuilding their side this coming summer, as in the summer they were listening to fees of between £45-55m, but come January it was £70m Secondly, the way our team was to be set up changed. During the summer it seemed that Poch was leaning towards playing two up top for the coming season, which is why we bid for Dybala and had interest in Fernandes, as both as players who would be playing off Harry Kane (albeit not the same way, as Dybala is clearly more of a Del Piero-type striker, while Fernandes strikes me more like how van der Vaart was deployed by us) but that plan was ditched when neither arrived...oh wait, it wasn't, as we persisted with two up top anyway even when the more rational course of action would have been to revert to the 4231 system at that point
Thats because he’s working things out...it’s called transition mate expect a cull in the Summer but will he backed by Levy? The cull depends on that too but we won’t see that part of it..we will just blame Jose if it goes tits up. He might not pick the formation you like...but Ive been watching the core of this team not responding to many formations in the past year or so. Our only stand outs this season have been the new signings plus a handful of the top players(Son,Kane,Moura). That suggests to me...we need a new team. Many posters can’t handle the fact that we blew our Golden generation under Levy’s watch...he never backed us when we were on the rise. Therefore our growth is stunted and it’s fallen on Jose...all roads lead back to ENIC
Pulls the plug on every project just when it comes to the ‘time to deliver’ part. Give the players time to settle they say Jose gets 3 months I see
Last summer...nothing to do with Jose...everything to do with Levy Sporting’s president Frederico Varandas had said Spurs were the only team to make a “serious offer” while Manchester United were tentatively linked. Tottenham were said to have made a bid of £40million with close to £17m in add-ons for winning the Premier League and Champions League, which ultimately proved too difficult for Sporting to accept. I can see Levy’s hand playing out there....****ing about putting in clauses about winning leagues and CL, of which we have won neither, ever. Another 10 mill and we would be a different outfit ON THE PITCH...a bit of the legendary negotiating we all hear about and I reckon we could have got him for a bit less.. but with most things when it comes to the playing staff...no true ambition of a chairman hungry for on field success. The point in all of it is...if Levy had the balls to speculate to accumulate...we would get there but like a true businessman he plays the number games. Which is fine but please will the apologists stop telling me he’s a footballing man just because he watched Spurs from the terraces lol wtf.
He's hardly the only player whose fitness has been problematic this season - Dier has not only been a shadow of his former self but casts a shadow larger than his former self all season, and while some of that can be explained by missing so much of last season due to illness and injury the fact he can't play more than 60 minutes without looking like he's going to go Mr Creosote all over the pitch is problematic - Dele had an initial good burst of form when he regained fitness following his various injury layoffs last season, but when his form fizzled out he started playing like somebody who just returned to training and he tends to fade out of matches in the last half hour yet usually remains on the pitch regardless - Vertonghen has looked utterly broken at times this season, and the most perplexing thing about that is he hasn't had the injury layoffs that Dier or Dele has had but is playing like someone who is coming back from hamstring surgery and often looks shattered as the second half progresses - Eriksen has been publicly criticised Inter for being unfit when he joined them, which he shouldn't be as he was playing regularly for us (when he shouldn't have been...) for the first half of the season While there are circumstances beyond our control when it comes to Dier and Dele fading as matches go on, as it's not a surprise that somebody who has had a long layoff can't be dropped into a team and expected to play 90 minutes as if nothing happened...the fact that they're regularly being dropped into the team and asked to play 90 minutes like nothing has happened is exacerbating our issues, and in Dier's case it;s gone past mystifying and into outright trolling that Oliver Skipp isn't being called in to replace Dier when he's on the verge of leaving his lunch all over the pitch
