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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Anyone who knows the Grauniad would know they're fake. The Neanderthals don't need much encouragement with him anyway...
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    Underrated post.
     
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    Westminster child sex abuse: Senior police and politicians knew about widespread paedophilia but ‘turned a blind eye to it’, inquiry finds


    Former prime minister Margaret Thatcher was aware of rumours about Tory MP ‘but did nothing’, probe claims

    Senior political and police figures knew about child sexual abuse linked to Westminster but “turned a blind eye to it” amid a culture of cover-up, an inquiry has found.

    Political institutions significantly failed in their responses to allegations of child sex abuse for decades by “actively shielding and protecting perpetrators” and covering up allegations, the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse has concluded.


    According to the inquiry, several highly placed people in the 1970s and 1980s, including Sir Peter Morrison MP and Sir Cyril Smith MP, were known or rumoured to be active in their sexual interest in children and were protected from prosecution in a number of ways, including by police.


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    Former Metropolitan Police officer Robert Glen told the inquiry his team had enough evidence to prosecute Sir Cyril Smith, a former Liberal MP, in the 1970s for sexual offences against young boys – but he claims the investigation was thwarted by senior officers who said it was “too political”.


    The report also claims Liberal Party members “were likely to be aware of allegations against Smith” but “did nothing to inhibit his political progress”.



    The party leader at the time, Lord David Steel, allegedly admitted to the inquiry that he “assumed” Smith had committed the offences alleged in a Private Eye article but took no action because it happened “before he was even a member of my party”.


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    In the late 1980s, allegations arose that Sir Peter Morrison, the Conservative MP for Chester, had been caught by police molesting a 15-year-old boy on a train at Crewe.

    The report claims senior officials within the Conservative Party knew about allegations concerning Morrison for years but did not pass them on to police.


    Instead, he became Margaret Thatcher’s Parliamentary Private Secretary in 1990 and was knighted a year later.

    Thatcher was aware of rumours about Morrison but did nothing, former cabinet secretary Lord Armstrong claimed.


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    Liberal Democrats suspend peer after evidence to child abuse inquiry

    A vivid picture of corruption in central London in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s was portrayed by several witnesses, the inquiry report said.

    “This included the cruising of expensive cars around Piccadilly Circus, by those viewing boys and young men, who would hang around the railings known as the ‘meat rack’ to be picked up by older men and abused,” it added.

    The boys were described as being aged between 11 and 22 and from “damaged backgrounds” or “runaways from the care system”.


    Lord Taverne, a Home Office minister in 1966, described a meeting with the then home secretary, Roy Jenkins, and the then commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Joe Simpson, during which Sir Joe remarked that there were “several ‘cottages’ in Westminster which we don’t investigate” because “they are frequented by celebrities and MPs”, the report said.

    While not specifically about the sexual abuse of children, the inquiry said this was an “example of a policy giving special treatment to persons of prominence and of deference towards those in power at Westminster”.

    During three weeks of public hearings last year, the inquiry heard from survivors, whistleblowers, cabinet ministers, MPs and police officers, among others.


    The inquiry did not find any evidence of an organised paedophile network at the heart of government.

    However, the report concluded there has been a political culture that values its reputation far higher than the fate of the children involved.

    It has made five recommendations, including ensuring all political parties have comprehensive safeguarding policies and procedures.


    The inquiry is also calling on the Cabinet Office to re-examine its policy on the posthumous forfeiture of honours.

    Professor Alexis Jay OBE, chair of the inquiry, said: “It is clear to see that Westminster institutions have repeatedly failed to deal with allegations of child sexual abuse, from turning a blind eye to actively shielding abusers.

    “A consistent pattern emerged of failures to put the welfare of children above political status although we found no evidence of an organised network of paedophiles within government.

    “We hope this report and its recommendations will lead political institutions to prioritise the needs and safety of vulnerable children.”
     
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    Definite lefty plant.

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    Never mind a chlorinated wash, it seems a German chicken needs scrubbing with Demestos.
    Chicken meat rife with antibiotic-resistant superbugs
    A study has found half of chicken meat at discount supermarkets is contaminated with antibiotic resistant germs that pose a major health risk. The results indicate antibiotics are overused at industrial poultry farms.



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    More than half of chicken meat sold at low-cost supermarkets in Germany is contaminated with antibiotic-resistant bacteria, according to a probe of meat samples.

    The environmental and consumer organization Germanwatch described the results of their study on Tuesday as "an alarmingly high resistance rate" that shows the overuse of antibiotics in industrial poultry production is endangering human health.

    Read more: Superbugs kill 33,000 in Europe each year, says study

    Germanwatch had 59 chicken meat samples from large discount supermarkets analyzed at a university lab and found that 56% were colonized by antibiotic-resistant germs. The meat samples came from the four largest slaughterhouses in Germany.

    Responding to the study, the Federal Agriculture Ministry said it "suggests that too many antibiotics are used in the poultry industry."

    Bacteria-fighting drugs have become less effective due to overuse in humans and animals as bacteria adapt and evolve. The more antibiotics are used, the greater bacteria are able to boost their defenses.

    Read more: German scientists find antibiotic-resistant germs in lakes, streams

    Alarmingly, the study found that one-third of chicken meat samples from discount supermarkets Lidl, Netto, Real, Aldi and Penny were contaminated with bacteria resistant to so-called reserve antibiotics.

    Reserve antibiotics are fourth-generation and fifth-generation drugs used as a last resort to fight superbugs resistant to traditional antibiotics.

    Experts said that bacteria are killed when chicken is properly cooked, but that humans can become sick or even die through cross-contamination with uncooked foods in the kitchen, such as on a cutting board. Workers at industrial chicken farms can also be exposed to germs through inhalation.

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    Antibiotic resistant microbes can contaminate uncooked foods in the kitchen

    Probes of 12 chicken meat samples from small-scale farmers were also conducted and only one was found to have antibiotic-resistant germs. In another analysis, six samples from ecological farms found no resistant pathogens.

    Germanwatch linked the differing results to the overuse of antibiotics at industrial poultry farms.

    Read more: WHO publishes list of 12 pathogens that pose greatest risk to human health

    The situation will only improve if the government prohibits veterinarians from prescribing antibiotics to "compensate for the consequences of catastrophic housing conditions and turbo-breeding in the production of cheap meat," Germanwatch said.

    Although German poultry farmers have halved their antibiotic consumption since 2011, it is still twice as high as in Denmark, Great Britain or Austria, according to the environmental and consumer organization.

    Germanwatch demanded that the use of antibiotics at poultry farms be dramatically reduced and that chicken meat be labeled as coming from industrial farms to better inform consumers.
     
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    That was ****ing mental, if there is any sorta **** like that you should clear it up sharpish. Especially as Corbyn himself has not said or done a direct anti Semitic act, but when there are actions within your party it’s his job to address them, yeah disappointing leaders should be seen to act, that includes publicly.
     
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    It costs three time as much for the State to put a child in a home than it does to send a child to Eton as a boarder.
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    The annual survey of people who run children's homes for profit is out today. This is what they are saying about the fees they charge local authorities. No wonder children's services are 'overspending'
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    Jacob Rees-Mogg
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    I can reassure the manufacturers of artisan crisps that they are in no danger, in fact I am a Walker’s crisps man or Pringles when I’m feeling extravagant. https://thegrocer.co.uk/the-grocer-blog-daily-bread/step-by-step-how-to-un-cancel-your-fmcg-brand-on-twitter/602281.article…

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    cue the woke left boycotting walkers & pringles crisps

    If we get this right - the woke lot will be on full hunger strike soon!
     
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    After what Mogg said about grenfell wouldn’t have thought he’d be popular with anyone on here.
     
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    All we need now is Boris to announce he's become a Vegan...<laugh>
     
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    but is the fact he eats walkers or drinks Yorkshire tea reason enough to want to boycott the companies
    maybe it is

    should all mps be made to submit their shopping lists
     
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    couldnt give a **** what he eats or drinks, I do care what the **** said about the victims of Grenfell I know people who have suffered loss from this, I’d imagine that’s the same with other members of this group, and he totally disrespected the fire service.

    but yeah it’s a couple of dickheads saying they’ll boycott crisps or tea is the bigger picture.
     
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