1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    93,134
    Likes Received:
    52,677
    They initially said that it was correct, then changed their minds later on, having seen the social media reaction to it.
     
    #161
    Citizen Kane. likes this.
  2. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Messages:
    3,061
    Likes Received:
    1,932
    As expected, our 3rd game in less than 6 days and Chelsea had a week to prepare, and they were half a yard quicker to the ball than us. GLC was lucky to stay on the pitch, but we were due one to go our way when you consider Robertson, Sterling, Capoue and Cantwell all should have seen red against us, but stayed on the pitch. Tactically, I am not going to question Mourinho, his record suggests he knows what he is doing, though I`m sure we can all pick holes in our play and realize the football we are playing has its problems. Once again a player that should be in prison scores against us, how Spursy is that? This season has been one problem after another and I can`t wait for it to be over, hopefully Levy builds us a proper squad this summer (I would not put money on it) and we can go again next season, I`ll reserve full judgement on Mourinho until then.
     
    #162
  3. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    64,178
    Likes Received:
    28,505
    So that's twice since the turn of the year where a win would put us in fourth, and twice we've ****ed it up

    But the manager has a "winner's mentality" and that fixed everything...
     
    #163
    Stokenchurch yid and KingHotspur like this.
  4. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    93,134
    Likes Received:
    52,677


    Spoiler: It wasn't.



    Yep. He did **** today, but he's not wrong.
     
    #164
  5. Lovearsenalcock

    Lovearsenalcock Homeboy
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    72,471
    Likes Received:
    85,325
    He can only pass it on but it’s obvious that the Losers mentality that exists at our club as a collective overrides one man’s thinking therefore a lot more time is required than 3 months to shift the Equilibrium
     
    #165
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2020
  6. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Messages:
    21,200
    Likes Received:
    16,325
    <laugh> this had me in tears
     
    #166
    armchairblue and Sucky like this.
  7. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    7,721
    Likes Received:
    6,154
    I don’t think anyone is saying Mou has fixed everything, regardless it takes time to change the mentality of a group of players, if that is indeed what needs to be done. We can all pick holes in certain strategies and lineups but he is also dealing with some circumstances that are not under his control that most managers would struggle with.

    Today was hugely disappointing but major surgery is needed on a squad that looked broken earlier this season. The man needs time to work.
     
    #167
    Lovearsenalcock likes this.
  8. paultheplug

    paultheplug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,444
    Likes Received:
    3,174
    If VAR is going to cave in to public pressure, what is the point of it. I seem to be in a very small minority that thought it was not a red card, but like everybody I have only seen the broadcast footage. If VAR officials now start giving decisions that they think social media want them to give, go back to the old system. A referee, who should understand the game more than the general public decided there was no foul play even after seeing extra footage. He should not change his mind. This now leads to the possibility of a retrospective ban for Lo Celso because of public pressure and is not acceptable.
     
    #168
  9. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    33,684
    Likes Received:
    37,158
    VAR was over ruled after it sent off Son at Everton...if Lo Celso gets a ban it is cos he should have been sent off but VAR was an arse just like it was re Robertson and Stirling at WHL
     
    #169
  10. paultheplug

    paultheplug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,444
    Likes Received:
    3,174
    How far along the line should the decision process go. If Lo Celso does get a ban should we go CAS? I heard somewhere that it was the refs decision to send off Son, not VAR.
     
    #170

  11. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    93,134
    Likes Received:
    52,677
    They can't ban Lo Celso. The ref saw it, VAR ruled on it and that's the end of it.
    They may changed the rule after this, but he's not going to get done for it.
     
    #171
    The Changing Man likes this.
  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    36,705
    Likes Received:
    42,117
    Although I don't know the rules, I doubt Lo Celso will get a retrospective ban (even though he deserves one if we're being honest).

    Both the referee AND VAR deemed the tackle not red card worthy at the time, surely if two sets of officials made that decision it then can't go to a third panel?

    Otherwise it further makes a mockery of VAR.
     
    #172
  13. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,170
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    I shall be at church tomorrow. I'm tempted to ask in prayer.."Give us a break,mate!"
     
    #173
  14. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,170
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    p.s. Why was our right back not at right back to stop that second goal?
     
    #174
  15. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    93,134
    Likes Received:
    52,677
  16. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    93,134
    Likes Received:
    52,677
    Because he's a centre-half and not used to playing as a right-wingback.
     
    #176
  17. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    23,572
    Likes Received:
    13,761
    In a democracy the minority usually makes the right decision paul and I'll join you in thinking it was not stamping with intent. Azpiluctta slid in under the feet of Lol Celso.
    Or if you disagree when did Lol Celso become such a dirty player that he stamps deliberately.???? This is the problem with VAR it relies on humans to make the choice and they have already shown that they are not capable of taking into account looking at something in slow motion does to the perception.
    The majority may shout us down but the fact that there are different opinions on this shows why VAR is a menace to the game as I thought it would be in the first place. Giroud was not offside because they changed the rules AGAIN.
     
    #177
    remembercolinlee and paultheplug like this.
  18. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    36,705
    Likes Received:
    42,117
    Mod or not, you deserve to be banned for posting this <laugh>
     
    #178
  19. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    33,684
    Likes Received:
    37,158
    I aint arguing he should be banned and considering the fact that neither Stirling or Robertson were retrospectively banned it would be a joke to do that to Lo Celso imho
     
    #179
  20. bigsmithy9

    bigsmithy9 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,170
    Likes Received:
    3,344
    Let's halt the season and start again in August. VAR will be ticked,Liverpool will be ticked and Lampard will shoot himself!
     
    #180

Share This Page