1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Friday 21st February)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    62,353
    Likes Received:
    36,878
    perfect1.jpg
    Good Morning. Its Friday 21st February, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road

    Casilla ban could lead to 5m fee activation for Meslier's services

    With a hefty ban period period looking over Italian keeper Kiko Casilla, Marcelo Bielsa has come out and said that should the inevitable happen, Meslier has shown the required level if required to play (not exactly a glowing report).

    Casilla is still waiting for the official word from the FA regarding his racism charge, but knowing that the governing body can convict the former Real Madrid shot stopper on probability, not fact, things don't look good for the 33yo.

    Casilla will face between 6 and 12 games on the sidelines if found guilty.

    With such a long ban looming, why hasn't Bielsa given promising young keeper Illan Meslier a chance between the sticks?

    The reason was divulged yesterday!

    Should Meslier play 10 first team games for Leeds, there is a clause in his contract that the deal will have to be made permanent, with a fee of just over 5m agreed.

    Thoughts?

    please log in to view this image


    Proposed Summer takeover in doubt over al-Khelaifi bribery charges

    Leeds proposed Summer takeover by Qatari businessman Nasser al-Khelaifi could be in peril after it has been revealed that the PSG owner has been charged by Swiss prosecutors in connection with a bribery investigation into World Cup television rights.

    Former secretary-general of FIFA, world football's governing body, Jerome Valcke and a third unnamed businessman were also indicted by the Office of the Attorney General of Switzerland (OAG).

    “The OAG has charged Valcke with accepting bribes, several counts of aggravated criminal mismanagement, and falsification of documents,” a statement read on Thursday.

    “Al-Khelaifi and the third accused are charged with inciting Valcke to commit aggravated criminal mismanagement. The third accused is also charged with bribery.”

    Last month Fifa reached an amicable agreement with Khelaifi, to drop its criminal complaint relating to the awarding of 2026 and 2030 World Cup rights to Qatari broadcaster BeIN Sports.

    “I have been cleared of all suspicions of bribery and the case has been dismissed definitively and conclusively,” said Khelaifi in a statement. “While a secondary technical charge remains outstanding, I have every expectation that this will be proven completely groundless.

    “While I have cooperated with all authorities during the legal process, the three year investigation has been characterised by constant leaks, misinformation and a seemingly relentless agenda to smear my reputation in the media – completely irrespective of the facts and the notion of due process. For that reason, I have requested the relevant Swiss authorities to open a criminal enquiry into the conduct of the investigation.”

    please log in to view this image


    Bielsa's pre match press conference

     
    #1
  2. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    27,875
    Likes Received:
    32,125
    Morning all...

    I was just reading about the £5m fee if Messlier plays 10 games, they’re saying the rumour started on twitter so I wonder if it is true? After Saturday we’ll have 12 games left, Messlier played a cup game so with 10 being the magic number we play him up to game 42 and see where we are at with 4 remaining.

    With so much doubt over Casilla they can’t give him the maximum 12 weeks, they’ll probably give the minimum so that we don’t appeal.

    If the QSI man is found guilty he’ll be removed from the board and a “suitable” replacement put in place so IF they want to buy or invest in us it would still happen.
     
    #2
  3. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,544
    Likes Received:
    32,315
    Morning all. I expect Meslier to mysteriously pull a groin muscle after 9 matches so. That rumour circulated yesterday and appeared to start with some French publication. Who knows the truth of anything anymore though. Anyone can set up a sports publication on line, get a few thousand followers, include the @Lufc and you're guaranteed tens of thousands of followers. Even Elland has nearly more twitter followers now than Nial Horan, its in the tens of millions
     
    #3
    ristac and bucks_is_leeds like this.
  4. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,662
    Likes Received:
    22,061
    Morning all,

    So we end up triggering a £5m activation fee for Meslier? I can't see the problem <confused>

    It would be paid in instalments, and getting rid of Casilla would save £2m a year in wages.

    I'd assumed we'd be buying Meslier anyway.
     
    #4
    Gessa, ristac, OLOF and 5 others like this.
  5. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    22,513
    Why wouldn't we want to sign Meslier? His one appearance this season was one of the best performances of a Leeds keeper this season. Looks a steal at 5m
     
    #5
    LeedsInHeaven, Gessa, OLOF and 5 others like this.
  6. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    13,662
    Likes Received:
    22,061
    It's a very low benchmark tbf :biggrin:
     
    #6
  7. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,544
    Likes Received:
    32,315
    He mightn't be as good as Kiko or surely Bielsa would be picking him. I thought he always selected his best eleven <whistle>
     
    #7
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
  8. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    22,513
    From what I have seen in the U23s and more importantly the Arsenal game he looks extremely capable.

    I don't think his quality is in doubt. Wether he can handle the pressure week in week out is another question. There's only one way to find out.

    The only reason we wouldn't want to sign him is financial! If that's the case we could be in trouble next season if we dont go up!
     
    #8
    FORZA LEEDS likes this.
  9. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    44,516
    Likes Received:
    41,460
    How the **** can you charge someone on probability. FFS I'm sending you to prison for 15 years because you probably murdered someone. If Kiko gets done it's just more proof that the governing body are just a bunch of vindictive, bent bastards. How they haven't been investigated is beyond me.<grr>
     
    #9
  10. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2016
    Messages:
    11,040
    Likes Received:
    13,134
    This will continue until someone challenges them in court, also encourages black people etc to make these kind of charges.
    Probability is balmy it could also be said which ever judgement the bent fa come to is probably wrong
     
    #10
    OLOF and Irishshako like this.

  11. Ringo Lion

    Ringo Lion Pumpkin

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    2,978
    Likes Received:
    2,433
    One of Millwall’s under 23’s Harry Ramson(not the fish and chip shop) was recently cleared of racism during a game in October, there were no witnesses (players,officials or spectators) yet the young kid had this claim that could had destroyed his career hanging over him until the end of January when due to lack of evidence he was cleared.
    I’m not throwing any accusations here but the player that accused him of racism was a QPR player the same team that the player who has accused Kiko originates from , are QPR looking to rock the boat?, in all probability they are.
     
    #11
  12. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2016
    Messages:
    11,040
    Likes Received:
    13,134
    There speaks a cynic, join the clan<yikes>:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
    #12
    Whitejock and Ringo Lion like this.
  13. Irishshako

    Irishshako Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    44,516
    Likes Received:
    41,460
    If that's the case Ringo, the accusers should be shamed. <ok>
     
    #13
    Ringo Lion likes this.
  14. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    31,544
    Likes Received:
    32,315
    The thing that puzzles me about players supposedly making racist jibes is that all teams have four five or six team mates from various ethnic backgrounds. Hard to believe a player would call another a negro or whatever when several of his team mates are likely of same colour
     
    #14
    Ringo Lion and LeedsLover like this.
  15. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2014
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    2,951
  16. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    21,152
    Is it the FA or the EFL hearing his case?
     
    #16
    Irishshako likes this.
  17. NostradEmus

    NostradEmus Firpo Carlos

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12,402
    Likes Received:
    22,513
    Will they let us know about Casilla today? Tomorrow dinner time? Kinda ****ing with matchday preparations here!
     
    #17
    FORZA LEEDS likes this.
  18. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2014
    Messages:
    18,079
    Likes Received:
    21,152
    'Beyond reasonable doubt' is only used in criminal trials, everything else, civil claims between individuals, employment tribunals etc. is always based on the balance of probability. Most famously used in the OJ Simpson case. Found not guilty at trial but in the civil case brought by the families he was forced to pay them millions.
     
    #18
  19. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2016
    Messages:
    11,040
    Likes Received:
    13,134
    FA will let us know at 2.59pm on Saturday 22nd February
     
    #19
    Whitejock likes this.
  20. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2016
    Messages:
    11,040
    Likes Received:
    13,134
    I don’t like probability prefer things in black or white not 59 shades of grey
    Or could this be interpreted as racist,probably
     
    #20

Share This Page