In both this hypothetical scenario and City's case the stolen evidence is not the case, it's just the thing that brings the authority's attention to start their own investigation. If you ask the video murderer to come to the police station and answer some questions and his response is the stab an officer and set fire to the station he doesn't get away with it just because the whole thing started from stolen evidence so now anything goes. City are being punished for their lies to UEFA and refusal to cooperate with the investigation (which is a requirement of being part of the CL) not for the content of stolen emails and not for violating FFP.
They've lied about the source of the sponsorship. That's why they're in trouble, not because of the specific amount of the money.
It's anti-competitive business practices, UEFA isn't a sporting association, it's a protectionist cartel and won't have a chance in a real court.
How is it anti-competitive to demand City follows the same rules as everyone else? If UEFA don't ban City every other club in Europe would be entitled to sue them.
It's a protectionist cartel where FFP rules are designed, not to protect clubs from financial melt-down, but to ensure UEFA maximise profits by safeguarding the 'big clubs'. Will be funny when their money grubbing costs them.
I see how it can be argued as such. Clubs can only lose £Xm over a period of time so City can’t spend the same as United, Barca etc. I’d rather a salary and/or transfer fee cap was imposed rather than this though. Feel that would be fairer. Still think how it is is better than nothing.
Their punishment for massively overspending was a just small fine and a slightly smaller number of players in their CL squad. The ban is for lying to UEFA and failing to cooperate with the investigation. This is basically a ban for fraud not for FFP violations.
No. The claim is that they’ve overstated the actual sponsorship amount with the figure they’ve listed in their accounts being largely made up of payments from their owners company and not Etihad. So the amount is the salient point.
Disclosure levels vary and is at the discretion of the court in this country. I’ve no idea what the disclosure rules are at CAS, and I doubt you have either tbh mate.
The point is they inflated the value by lying about the source. Not that they lied about e.g. £50m and you're only allowed to lie about £45m. It's a lying issue not a numerical one.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...re-not-the-sort-to-take-punishment-lying-down In 2011 Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the emir of Abu Dhabi and president of the United Arab Emirates, received a letter. It came from a group of Emirati intellectuals inspired by the recent wave of pro-democracy protests sweeping through the Middle East and north Africa, and requested a range of modest reforms, including an extension of the voting franchise which at the time encompassed just 2% of the country’s population. No marching on the streets. No popular unrest. Certainly no disorder of any kind. Just a letter. Nonetheless, with a regime petrified to the point of paranoia by the spectre of political Islamism, the reprisals would be swift and merciless. Within weeks the arrests had begun, rounding up most of the 160 letter’s signatories, who were designated as “terrorists” plotting to overthrow the regime. Citizenships were revoked. Hefty prison sentences were dished out. In 2014 Abu Dhabi enacted Terrorism Law No 7, reclassifying peaceful opposition as a terrorist act punishable by death, and criminalising a whole range of hazily-defined acts, from “antagonising the state” or “stirring panic among a group of people” to “carrying explosive crackers for a terrorist purpose”. Now: does this strike you as a group of people that is going to be intimidated by the fine print of Article 56, section (a) of the 2018 edition of Uefa’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations? Man City's human rights abusing owners got bored of pretending to follow the rules and demanded UEFA grovelled at their feet like they're used to everyone else doing. UEFA stood up to them. UEFA might only be doing it because they too are massively egotistical ****s, but the fact remains that if Man City are allowed to win it's a victory for true evil.
Astro boring the life out of this thread with his Googled stats like the actual sport is ****ing redundant and it’s just evolved into numbers on spreadsheets. Just hurry up and get City in the bin ffs and give us the two pots. TWENTY TWO TIMES!
Nope, it's just Astro hoping Liverpool will be awarded an unearned title from the past (a lot like the interest Gerrard has been talking about), Who knows who is really on this board
TBF LFC are so far above everyone else they deserve two PLs just for this season let alone the ones City robbed in the past
I don't even see the joy in winning an award that is past it's sell by date. To me this was one of the greatest football scandals ever against UEFA, anyone that watched the game in 1984, knew the referee had been bribed, it didn't take rocket science to work out on that night, it took well over a decade for the truth to finally come out... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-37453762
Nope. Uefa’s statement read. “The Adjudicatory Chamber, having considered all the evidence, has found that Manchester City Football Club committed serious breaches of the Uefa Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations by overstating its sponsorship revenue in its accounts and in the break-even information submitted to Uefa between 2012 and 2016”