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We would still have needed to spend all our money on schools, hospitals, translators, and houses for these immigrants

 

Yep, but there'd be less of them if the jobs they were coming here for didn't exist, as they'd been filled by better trained locals.

 

investment in skills and training?
we should have schools that cater to pupils needs: whether they are musical, artistic, technical or academic as well as the basics required.
Labour want to get rid of Ofsted because left wing teachers don't like to be assessed.
Universities should stop providing silly courses to earn money which taxpayers have to pay for. The graduates look for a job and struggle to be employed by McDonalds.
There should be more real training undertaken rather than "training schemes" that only receive government and are not useful.

 

Weird how this is the only thread with tags that I can see.

 

They'd still come. Better to be unemployed here than in Eastern Europe because the benefits are better.
Why not ditch freedom of movement so we only let people come here if we need them?

 

I suspect even Nandy would tackle that element.

She's one of the few on the left that has a reasonable handle on their failings.

 

It doesn't matter what she thinks. She has to do what the crazies want or she wont be leader. If she becomes leader it wont be for long until she advocates left wing policies.

 

Possibly, but she's a long, long way off ever being in a position to do anything. The fact she's effectively backing immigration control, and pushing Brits into the lower end jobs that attract overseas applicants, means there's more chance of these measures coming in without too much screaching.

 

You can't get benefits for two years numbnuts, who is going to come to the UK from Eastern Europe and sit on their arses for two years with no benefits?

 

They can claim some benefits (if working or self employed)

 

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/b...if-you-can-get-benefits-if-youre-from-the-eu/

Can you provide a link to where it says you can't get benefits for two years?

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/benefits-non-uk-nationals

 

So they have to work and like millions of others are propped up by the government because employers are allowed to pay ****e wages.

It isn't Petr or Sergi who work the gig economy that is impeding a fair crack of the whip for poor whitey.

And anyway, are you going to wash motors or pick fruit?

 

Lisa Nandy comes across very well. Intelligent and down to earth with common sense usually.

Unlike Johnson, Corbyn and Sturgeon.

 

The fruit picking thing is a big red herring. Not that long ago, round here it all used to be done by us kids for a few quid. It used to be one of the few ways the London poor got fresh air.

 

It seems to be settled that EU migrants to UK get benefits immediately they arrive.
Nobody has produced any evidence to the contrary.

 

Aye let's go back to the 50's everything was great, we will get the kids up Chimneys while we are at it.

Do you have kids? Would your kids pick fruit bj or wash motors for a living? Mine wouldn't in a million years

 

So, now it's wrong for youngsters to pick fruit? If fruit picking has to be done by adults then UK benefit claimants can do it or their benefits should be stopped.

 

Most people on benefits already work or are incapable of doing so.

 

I did plenty of tattie picking and fruit picking when I was a wee boy.

Kids nowadays are bone ****ing idle and want to spend their whole time looking at a ****ing screen.

Time for compulsory conscription at the age of 8. Time they got off their ****ing arses.