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Cheltenham 2020 Ante Post Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Pilgrim, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. Ste D

    Ste D Well-Known Member

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    They really need to retire Douvan, owes connections nothing at this stage
     
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  2. As We Know

    As We Know 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Wonder if they will rethink Envoi Allen now, shaping up to be the weakest Champion Hurdle of all time.
     
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  3. SaveTheHumans

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    What's the latest on Buveur?
     
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  4. As We Know

    As We Know 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Would have been a steering job as I suspected.
     
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  5. CaptainPops

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    What like last year? :emoticon-0110-tongu
    P.s why have you changed from the Arab sounding (I wanna be a big time flat owner but I m in glasgow) to the Benoit thang?
     
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  6. SaveTheHumans

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    Aologies, you may have taken the question up the wrong way. I was asking if you knew any more on the horse, as in did he have any chance of making a recovery or is it more or less a done deal he will miss out.

    The last I read was he was making a good recovery, better than hoped. Sounded positive.
     
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    You got to think of BVD was fit he would be the most likeliest winner!!
     
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  8. OddDog

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    not entered (currently)

    will we see another Binocular-esque miracle?
     
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  9. kevloaf

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    Did you notice he got pushed out to 33/1 after his run?
    Back into 25/1 again now but I don't know how they took a negative view on Conflated!

    Goes there with a huge chance in my opinion.

    Although my long term plot / spot has been Column of Fire and I was also pleased with his run.

    Entries out on Tuesday for all the handicaps so the real hard work begins :)
     
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  10. Pilgrim

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    No, I didn't notice. I've seen the race again a couple of times and it seems to me that he ran right to be a Grade 1, jumped well except for a hurdle and finished the race very well. Elliot's not going to leave a horse alone there so I hope that if he's not his first choice, maybe he’s COF, he's the second, although sometimes I think it's possible that even Elliot might think otherwise.

    Right now he has 138 in Ireland and I expect at most 141-142 in UK.

    Now we have to wait until Tuesday 18th.
     
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  11. Realb

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    Thanks Chainbar as I threw Elgin in a e/w treble at the weekend with Dell Arca and Tarmaroc Du Mathan so have a lovely piece of paper for day one (although Elgin was only 50/1 and therefore 10/1 place). He is entered in the Kingwell and if he runs well there I will be a tad nervous at 3.30 on the 10th
     
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  12. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    I noticed that he'd been cut to 50s at the weekend. Not sure why as he's still not seen a racecourse this season. He's currently 7s for the Kingwell on Saturday and I would imagine will need to run well to get the nod for the CH. It would be lovely just to have live voucher at 100/1 (or 50s) on day 1 of the festival. I still reckon the Champion Hurdle is wide open with plenty of question marks around the top 5 in the betting even lining up. 3 Mares (2 won't run IMO), a novice and a 5 year old leaves plenty of scope for an outsider to land a blow.
     
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  13. OddDog

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    Welsh Saint entered in both the Rendelsham and Pertemps Qualifier at Haydock this coming Saturday over 3 miles. Both open company which surprises me - perhaps they are just speculative entries and he won't run in either ......................... interesting nevertheless.
     
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  14. Realb

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    That is why I liked it when you put it up. Like each doubles and trebles especially and big odds. Was tempted with pairing it with Bristol De Mai but didn't get the bet down when Bristol was at 50's
     
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  15. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Is this horse’s moniker a case of the 11th richest man in Wales naming horses after himself?!? One does wonder.

    Agree he is interesting but I think there is another in that ‘Pertemps Qualifier’ who is perhaps even more so. And that is Kilbricken Storm. Read an interview with old boy Tizzard after the ‘Cleeve’ in which he said the owner is intent on running him in the ‘Stayers Hurdle’ (and does have an entry) which Col all but stated was madness. He said, then, that he personally will be trying to persuade the owner to go down the handicap route at the Festival as off 143 he does look nicely treated. Now if he creeps into 5th or 6th in this ‘Qualifier’ at the weekend and gets a ratings reduction, in the process, Kilbricken Storm could be very well treated re the Final should the owner end up going that way. Although I am still fascinated by The Storyteller re this event.
     
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  16. mallafets123

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    Looks like Footpad missess Cheltenham
     
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  17. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Elgin must be catchin the proverbial pigeons on the gallops. Now 33/1 from 100/1 just over a week ago and still nowhere near a racecourse. Those nice people in Stoke have offered me my stake back plus 50%. **** em <laugh>.
     
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    Got to hope they can get a race into him this weekend or next week though. I can't be having him line up without a prep.
     
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  19. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Kingwell @ Wincanton this Saturday is the plan. Agreed though prep run essential.
     
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  20. Pilgrim

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    Maybe it's a good bet Saint D'Oroux 33/1 NRNB before he runs tomorrow at Gowran if the meeting go ahead.
     
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