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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahahahahaha hahahahaha, Sorry pal but if you think he’s the answer to LIEBOURS problems you are seriously barking up the wrong tree.
     
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    Our notoriously pro-France mainstream media.
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    Have read the tweets and seen pics/videos? They are ripping her to bits for her comments.
    If her comments were from a Tory, social media would go into meltdown. Seriously Watford the EU is f22ked. You will be thanking us in a few years.
     
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  4. ELLERS

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    Sadly Stroller calls most things wrong in the political World. They would be better off with a woman like Jess <wah> Phillips/ Lisa :emoticon-0152-heart Nancy or drag back Milibland from the US. Labour are so out of touch will the public and will be in the wilderness 10-15years. For all Boris’s faults people like him and he is popular.
    Labour supporters just don’t get it... Jezza for PM? <laugh> Deluded.
     
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  5. Bwood_Ranger

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    Hope the chalet is ok.
     
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    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    People are morons though. Our electorate is Stacey and Tracey. There are more stupid old ****s like Turkish in the country than Strollers which benefits very few people.
     
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    leave Stacey out of this
     
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    That Stacey votes Lib Dem.
     
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    its good to know that there isnt a problem out there that cant be fixed by paying more tax


    EU urged to adopt meat tax to tackle climate emergency
    Levy would help offset impact of farming by raising price of steak in UK by 25%, says report

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    A joint of British beef. The levy on pork and chicken would be lower owing to their smaller environmental impact. Photograph: Bloomberg/Getty
    A “sustainability charge” on meat to cover its environmental damage could raise billions to help farmers and consumers produce and eat better food, according

    to a report.

    The levy, which would increase the price of a steak by about 25%, would be phased in over the next decade. The report focuses on EU countries and was produced for the Tapp Coalition of health, environment and animal welfare organisations. It says “fair pricing” for meat should be included in the forthcoming European “green new deal” and so-called farm to fork strategy.

    The report, produced by environmental research group CE Delft, analysed the costs of greenhouse gas emi
    ssions, other air and water pollution, and losses of wildlife associated with livestock production. It estimated that covering these costs would increase the price of beef by €0.47 (40p) per 100g. This would increase the cost of a 227g supermarket steak in the UK by about 25%.

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    The levy on pork and chicken would be lower owing to their smaller environmental impact, at €0.36 (31p)/100g and €0.17 (14p)/100g respectively. The report suggests such charges could reduce consumption of beef in the EU by 67%, pork by 57% and chicken by 30% by 2030.

    As well as reducing emissions by 120m tonnes a year, the charges would raise €32bn a year for EU member states, according to the report.

    The Tapp Coalition said about half of this should be given to help farmers move their production away from meat, which could increase individual farm incomes by thousands of euros per year.

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    The rest should be used to reduce the cost of fruit and vegetables, support poorer families and help developing countries deal with the climate crisis.

    Jeroom Remmers, a Tapp Coalition director, said: “Europeans eat roughly 50% more meat than is recommended in dietary health guidelines. [So] we could also save billions of euros every year in lower healthcare costs.”

    In November, three European health associations wrote to Frans Timmermans, the senior European commissioner leading the green new deal initiative. They said: Numerous studies in recent years have shown that a shift to healthy, more plant-rich diets can deliver important health, environmental and economic benefits.”

    A carbon tax on high-impact food is also backed by a second report, from the Behavioural Insights Team (Bit), a social purpose company part-owned by the UK government. It further suggests making plant-based food the default choice at catered events or on flights.

    Recent research has shown that a huge reduction in meat-eating in rich nations is essential to tackle the climate emergency. Other work indicates that avoiding meat and dairy products is the single biggest way to reduce your environmental impact on the planet.

    “Including the environmental cost of animal protein in the price is a crucial element of meeting EU targets for climate, biodiversity, public health, and animal welfare,” said Prof Pier Vellinga at Wageningen University in the Netherlands and chair of the Tapp Coalition.

    The report from Bit, also known as the “nudge unit” set up by David Cameron in 2010, examines how governments, the food industry and campaign groups can help shift diets away from meat.

    As well as supporting a carbon tax on high-impact food, it says governments could lead by example, by “removing or reducing unsustainable foods from public canteens in hospitals, schools and government offices”. It also says practical cooking skills could be taught in schools and colleges.

    Food companies could make plant-based products the default choice, for example at catered events or on flights, the Bit report said. It also suggested marketing plant-based food as “delicious, normal, and satisfying, not as light, abstemious, or overtly healthy or vegetarian”. Another proposal is placing veggie burgers alongside their meat counterparts instead of separating them on menus or in supermarket aisles.

    The report said campaign groups could reduce the perceived complexity of sustainable eating by promoting clear rules of thumb, such as “red meat’s a treat”.

    Toby Park, the head of energy and sustainability at Bit, said: “Governments, industry and consumers around the world are more aware than ever of the need to live within our planet’s means.

    “While some of the solutions will come from technical advancements, there is huge potential and need to reduce our environmental impacts with some simple behaviour changes.”

    In the UK, the National Farmers’ Union says agriculture can become climate neutral by 2040 without cutting beef production. Instead, it says three-quarters of farming emissions can be offset by growing fuel for power stations and then capturing and burying the carbon dioxide.


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    That would be a blinding move to appoint Lisa Nandy as Shadow Home Secretary, the debate on terrorists, policing and immigration would be quality viewing.
     
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    Are The Grauniad taxing their readers? Every article ends with them begging, the Liberal Lefties obviously feeling the pinch...
     
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    Brexit sparks housing boom in capital, with estate agents reporting highest buyer interest in 15 years
    “This company has been going 14 years and we have never seen those activity levels," a luxury London-based estate agent said

    By Gabriella Swerling, Social Affairs Editor 3 February 2020 • 3:57pm
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    Knight Frank, the UK’s leading independent real estate company, reported that the number of new prospective buyers registering with the company in London rising to its highest weekly total in more than 15 years. Credit: Chris Ratcliffe /© 2015 Bloomberg Finance LP
    Brexit has prompted a housing boom in the capital, experts claim, after estate agents reported their highest rate of buyer interest in 15 years.

    Experts are reporting “unprecedented” levels of interest, with industry professionals forced to “stagger” their clients and extend their waiting lists. This comes following the general election in December last year, and ahead of Britain leaving the European Union last month. Experts are tentatively reporting that, finally, they believe that the commercial property downturn is being reversed.

    Knight Frank, the UK’s leading independent real estate company, reported that the number of new prospective buyers registering with the company in London rising to its highest weekly total in more than 15 years....
     
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    Yes mate the French love me because I keep the local village afloat. France is going through tough times and needs the dosh.
     
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    Said before that it’s unfair to call people morons. Everyone has the right to vote thick or not. Besides if everyone was like Stroller we would get most things wrong. :1980_boogie_down: Remember he put his money on Jezza. <laugh>
     
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    How is it unfair to call a moron a moron? Have you seen that clip of them?
     
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    It’s funny looking back over this thread to see people supporting Bercow (now being done as Bully) support for SNP ( fully of pervs and sexual freaks).
    People slated us for wanting Brexit... told us we were all thick racists and all their hero’s ended up being unsavoury.
    I think us thick lot got it right and the so called intelligent’s got it wrong.
     
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