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Cheltenham 2020 Ante Post Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Pilgrim, Nov 13, 2019.

  1. CaptainPops

    CaptainPops Well-Known Member

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    Hi all - don't forget to put your ante post tips up on here. I have compiled a spreadsheet of ante post bets and have a list of 40 so far. So come on don't be scared it's a bit of fun and we can look back on it after the event.

    All I need is name of horse..race...price you have got and win or each way. Don't need the amount of dosh plundered..just brief details as mentioned. Come on then folks what you waiting for..<cheers>
     
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  2. Grendel

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    I had a look at Fly Smart's entry and it does not look a strong race in terms of the ones with form already. Fortune Street from the Paul Nolan yard has an RPR of 126 but he has been racing over further and was only 4th when favourite in a Maiden Hurdle last time. Exit Poll, from the Harrington yard is 123 on RPR but was well whipped in a Maiden Hurdle last time. Willie Mullins has Jon Snow entered and he is at least consistent with two 125 efforts on Racing Post figures when placing 3rd twice in Maiden Hurdles. Beaten favourite at 6/5 in the second of those, the worry would be that he did not improve from the first run. He will probably win races and the upcoming race is one he may well pop up in but you would hope something better may emerge from the unraced ones.

    Fly Smart needs to win this race and probably will have to thrash his field to be a realistic candidate to step up to the Supreme Novices in March. I haven't picked a Supreme horse yet and although liking the look of Fly Smart from a profile point of view I can't take the leap of faith from a weak looking Maiden starting point. I would rather see what his odds are for the Maiden race and perhaps have a bet there.
     
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  3. Reebok

    Reebok YTS Mod
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    Ok - ready for piss take then .....!
    Bouvir D'Air 6-1 CH (you didn't say they still had to be viable!)
    Fusil Raffles 14-1 and 12-1 same race
    Caryto Des Brosses 16-1 Foxhunters
    And that's me lot .... I went mad a few years ago (hence Joe's comment in my sig) and vowed never to do that again!
     
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  4. CaptainPops

    CaptainPops Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Reebs..I have added them. I have had one ante post bet and that will be my lot as not a fan of it but just interested in whether any good shouts are landed. Fair play if they are!

    Mine is Bristol de Mai 50/1 each way for the Gold Cup. I think he s going to run in the Cotswold Chase and looking forward to seeing how he does. Line up for that race could be good. Ground likely to be less testing this year and I think that's a big factor. I.e a horses race season wont be done there with attritional heavy ground - enough time to recover for March.
     
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  5. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Well-Known Member

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    Road To Respect is out for the season with a leg injury.
     
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  6. karlos5001

    karlos5001 Well-Known Member

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    At the moment I’ve got.
    Fly Smart 25/1 Supreme
    Al Dancer 16/1 Megan Markle
    Panic Attack 8/1 Bumper
    Storyteller 7/1 Pertemps. All ew.
    4 fold acca
    Envoi Allen 13/8 Ballymore
    Champ 4/1 RSA
    Tiger Roll 7/4 Cross Country
    Paisley Park 11/8 Stayers Hurdle
    Cheers Captain
     
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  7. CaptainPops

    CaptainPops Well-Known Member

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    Keep them coming guys...there are some well known posters who have yet to put up their ante post selections though..you know who you are!

    What s everyone's views on Monalee going straight to Cheltenham a fresher horse?Has finished 2nd and 4th on 3 previous visits. The 4th when tried over the Ryanair trip. Slightly different approach this year and trainer having a great season who is adamant Monalee is more of a 3 miler. Could he be a danger to all come March?

    If you are of the view that there is no outstanding candidate for Gold Cup glory and they are all a bit of a muchness he must have a chance..
     
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  8. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor
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    I think Monalee is one of those horses who just doesn't like travelling - seems to run below his Irish form when he comes across the water
     
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  9. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Megan Markle <laugh>
     
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  10. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Well-Known Member

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    Supreme: Fly Smart 25/1 e/w

    Champion Hurdle: Eldorado Allen 66/1 e/w

    Close Brothers: Champagne Court 25/1 e/w

    Ballymore: Dlauro 25/1 e/w (almost sure NR)

    Fred Winter: Saint D’Oroux 33/1 e/w

    Bumper: Hamundarson 33/1 e/w

    Mares’ Novices’ Hurdle: Lamarckise 7/1 win only

    Triumph: Gin On Lime 25/1 e/w

    County: Mohaayed 40/1 e/w

    Gold Cup: Tout Est Permis 40/1 e/w (NR)

    Bristol De Mai 40/1 e/w

    Foxhunters: Caryto Des Brosses 16/1 e/w

    Martin Pipe: Conflated 25/1 e/w

    I will not make more ante post bets, I am just waiting for a couple of horses that run these two weekends to see where they are going and depending on that maybe just another one.
     
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  11. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    These (above) are all of mine - so far
     
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    I'm thinking about Blue Safari but I'll wait to see how he runs next week
     
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  13. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    Fly Smart is not in the field of 25 for Saturday's Fairyhouse Maiden Hurdle. I would imagine Jon Snow will be favourite now.
     
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  14. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    Must say that out of all the horses that have run this past month or so the most eye-catching, interesting, call it what you like, horse has to be The Storyteller who crept into 6th place in Leopardstown’s Pertemps qualifier. Only disappointment is that those bookie chappies certainly didn’t miss it and have him at single figures to win The Final.
     
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    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    A word of warning re the novice handicap chase at the meet. Bookie chappies are still quoting Saturday's Cheltenham winner Simply The Betts but he is currently handicapped out of the 0-145 contest on 149 (got a 9 lbs rise following his win). Runner-up on that occasion Imperial Aura (now raised to 143) looks very interesting now he has such a perch. Although we won't dwell, team, on who his trainer is.
     
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  16. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Agree Imperial Aura looks a decent pick for the Novice Handicap. The Ivy Grower has a few decent sorts in his yard - Two for Gold and Vinndication look well above average. However the best sort in his yard has to be one of his part owners - the ever so luvly if slightly surgically enhanced Ms Vauders.
     
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  17. NassauBoard

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    imperial aura got a hike in the handicap didn’t he?
     
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  18. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Up 7lb from 136. Just below the 145 ceiling.
     
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  19. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Now that the championship races are NRNB, antepost betting on those races is more antepost lite with the jeopardy removed for a non runner. I've had a good look up and down the likely Champion Hurdle contenders and am struggling to pick a standout. As Irish racing is no longer on ATR I hardly see any of it but would probably take Sharjah @ 8/1. I'll probably have a few multiples across the week and if I include one from the Champ Hurdle in that it will be the Mullins/Ricci combo. Silver Streak is one of my favourite horses in training. He's an honest trier and may sneak a place again on decent ground. I don't see his price shortening though so will have an ew nibble on the day when the ground conditions are known. The Hail Mary punt I've picked out though is Elgin from the Alan King yard at a whopping 100/1 EW NRNB. The 8 year old missed the whole of last season through injury. Prior to that he ran well in the 2018 renewal but was ultimately well beaten in 5th. He does have some decent form though and deserves his rating of low 160s based on what he's done. In an average looking renewal he shouldn't be 100/1. He's entered in the the Betfair hurdle at Newbury but I reckon he's more likely to line up in the Kingwell at Wincanton. I can't believe King will run him unless he's back fully fit and had a prep run in which case I'll get my dosh back in any case.
     
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  20. kevloaf

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    You can add mine if you like... :emoticon-0119-puke:

    http://www.fatjockey.com/forum/showthread.php?15338-Kevloaf-Cheltenham-2020-Ante-Post-Diary
     
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