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A SB dilemma

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Darren Peacock’s Ponytail, Jan 6, 2020.

  1. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    So,

    Go out to Rochdale and SB confirms his Muppet status

    Go out to Oxford and SB confirms his Muppet status

    Go through and MA will have his arse rammed more than Charnleys.

    What would you do if you were Steve Bruce
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    He’s been gifted an absolute stunner of a draw. It’s absolutely nailed on the dozy fatheed will **** it up.
     
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  3. Southerner

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    Let's be fair here boys:

    Oxford 3 Rafa's miracle team 0 January 2017.

    Must be a very tough game to come right?
    :)
     
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  4. Doc.

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    So we will rely on lucks draws to ruin our season even more and eventually lose as soon as we draw a prem side... daft.. again no foward thinking and poor management
     
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  5. JakartaToon

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    Can see why it must be a ****ing thankless task managing Newcastle - we slam managers when they put weak sides out for Cup Games and then imply that trying to win cup games smacks of poor management and lack of forward thinking.

    We knock Rafa for playing defensive football and then when Steve's experiment of two up top backfires we knock him for changing Rafa's system.

    I had no problem with Rafa and I now have no problem with Bruce. They are completely different managers - one a tactician, the other a motivator. They have both been let down by the lack of squad depth and possibly a backroom fitness team that is not up to scratch.
     
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  6. Doc.

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    I dont slam them because its the best long term aim not to mention a chance to rest players and run rule over a few youth players , give them good exerience and keep the squad happy..

    We need to stay up.

    We cannot win the cup.


    I didnt mind rafas approach because it worked...
     
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  7. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    Am I the only one thinking that SB has been thrown a lifeline here. Win Rochdale and Oxford and then go out, finish say 16th in the table with no investment means:

    Ashleys happy as hell. Job done.

    SB is also happy as hell because he’s had a cup run and also kept us up. Job done.

    While we sit back and watch **** drab boring football. In Ashley’s eyes - Job dome!
     
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  8. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    He'll want to beat Oxford at all costs to show he is better than Rafa
     
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  9. Southerner

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    Bruce and the players have done a remarkable job so far this season, especially with no prep time pre season, a horrific injury list, and non-scoring forwards.
    It is absolutely bollocks that the play has not changed. Ranging right the way through the team, from the goalkeeper not just booting it, to genuine attempts at Invention with dead ball scenarios.
    I think it is a ****ing disgrace that so so many posters, elsewhere, and to a lesser extent here, have vilified Bruce from day one. Too many people desperately want him and the team to fail. It is the nature of the internet, that sites such as this have a disproportionate number of such characters. Pretty much anyone claiming to be a Newcastle fan is desperate for:
    1. A cup run
    2. A tilt at the top 6

    I am sick to death of the Rafa was God narrative. He achieved very, very little here and the football was unerringly boring and predictable. I'm delighted with points and play progress so far. I'm looking forward to more adventurous football as first teamers get fit and Bruce has a chance to bring in his own men, either this month or in the Summer.
    Of course, once the Longstaffs **** off to Manchester for 70 million, them being our first choice midfield paring and all that. We are clearly ****ed right?
    Some kid with illusions of being a journalist having just learnt how to do joined up writing, posts some bollocks on his/her/its twatter account, other wannabe kids and the Captain, seize on it as verbatim and suddenly you have a 10 page thread of bollocks (how i don't miss the ownership thread).
    Half term report - Has improved in many areas, could do better with continued effort and application.
     
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  10. Hugh Briss

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    Beware of trolls and 'W.U.M's :bandit:
     
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  11. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    I see what your doing here. We CANNOT win the cup, I'm with you :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  12. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    Going with a positive view on here to try and balance this out:

    Win the cup games vs Rochdale and Oxford and we are into the last 16 with a maximum of 10 EPL teams left to draw and guaranteed 5 lower league draws (along with us) so a 33% chance of getting a lower league team in the round of 16 with the potential for a few lower league teams to increase that percentage. Get through the round of 16 and you are 2 games away from a cup final.

    If we can pick up 6-10 points in the next 7 EPL games - Wolves, Chelsea, Everton, Norwich, Arsenal, Palace, Burnley - we would be 5-9 points shy of 40 points with 10 games in the league left to play and only City, Tottenham and Liverpool in that last 10 games from the top six teams. If we have a good run in those next seven games we could really focus on the cup and give it a serious go.

    Don't know why I bothered typing all that to be honest but there you go.
     
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  13. Hugh Briss

    Hugh Briss Well-Known Member

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    I'm pleased to read something positive rather than all the doomsayers of late...
     
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  14. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    I think it's more a sign of the hate and discontent Ashley's created that everything is greeted with cynicism, scepticism or just dislike and mistrust.
    I'm no fan of Rafa's anti-football, but you, sir, are talking a load of bollocks.

    Horrific injury list - just like Souness (another "motivator" who didn't believe in tactics) before him is Bruce REALLY not responsible?
    Non-scoring forwards - apart from Rochdale, the forwards have nothing to score from, the tactics are vague at best. All I see is "give to Max".
    GK not booting it - has put us in so much difficulty because our build up play is two+ touch, laborious nonsense. The movement is non-existent and teams press us realising we're going to **** up before long, which we've done countless times recently.
    Dead ball invention - nope, can't see it. Couple of decent early goals, but since then? Nothing.

    Bruce has been vilified since day one because he's a ****ing dinosaur whose success has been limited to a few wins at Hull and Birmingham. A man who turned down the Toon job in the past, he's never shown any kind of progressive thinking. There are articles everywhere about the injuries that hit his clubs. He's been playing, and failing with, 3-5-2 since he was at Palace and shows no signs of learning or evolving. He talks bollocks repeatedly (Joelinton's just a kid, apparently), plays players out of position repeatedly, and is a manager selected by Charnley and Ashley. He is the very epitome of the lack of ambition that is killing, or has killed, Newcastle United. Rafa has precisely **** all to do with any of this.
     
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  15. Southerner

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    And yet, here we are, mid table and still in the cup, with many positive signs for the future, and no whining from the manager.
    I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier comments.
     
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  16. Doc.

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    Hes moaned all season
     
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  17. Roland Deschain

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    Meh, we can pick this up again Monday.
     
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    I am with the lads with the banner on this one.

    We don't demand a team that wins. We demand a team that tries.
     
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  19. Doc.

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    It does its just not good enough
     
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