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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Wednesday 18th December))

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    perfect1.jpg Good Morning. It's Wednesday 18th December, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road.

    Are Sky Sports losing interest in Leeds?

    Nottingham Forest and West Brom have both had more live broadcasts from Sky Sports than Leeds this season.

    In recent years, not a month would go by without a game being rescheduled for the purpose of live viewing by the Satellite Sports giant, however as it stands Leeds have currently been televised seven times this campaign whilst Nottingham Forest (8) and West Brom (11) have leap frogged them.

    Are Leeds not seen as such a big draw compared to the other two?

    Who would you choose to feature as the 5 biggest teams in the Championship?

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    Should there be financial caps in the Championship?

    Luton Town chief executive Gary Sweet says they cannot financially compete in the Championship "mad house" and wants a salary cap enforced in the division.

    Last season Championship clubs ran up a record-high total of £307m in pre-tax losses.

    Spending on player and staff wages across the Championship exceeded clubs' revenue by 11%, and is expected to widen further this season.

    "We've got a situation where the rules say you're allowed to lose £39m over three years,"

    "So your starting point is, if you lose only £13m in one year, you've done well. You get a pat on the back. That's not our belief.

    "That's not where we've come from. I'm grounded in a business school that says you've got to make a profit, or at least break even. We are not in a position where we can lose £13m per year.

    "We haven't come in to it blindly. We've known all about the financial situation. But we were completely determined to do it our way and really not join in with the mad house.

    "That's really the best way I can describe it. We don't have those people in the boardroom who can just throw dozens of millions or maybe hundreds of millions in to the pot over a few years to try and get to that next level."

    In 2017-18, overall spending on player and staff wages across the Championship exceeded clubs' revenue by 11%, and that gap is expected to widen to an all-time high for 2018-19.

    But Sweet would like to see that change with the introduction of a salary cap.

    "What would I do? I would certainly bring in a salary cap. We run our own salary cap, it's self-policed," he added.

    "We're still operating on the League Two and League One financial fair play rule, salary cost management, [whereby] we couldn't spend any more than 60% of our turnover on player salaries.

    "I would bring in a cap on agents' fees. You perhaps could only get promoted, for example, if you break even and you're clean.

    "So there are a couple of ideas for you. They probably won't be taken up."

    Thoughts?

    Could this work?

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    Leeds scouts target Swedish academy ace

    Top flight Swedish outfit GAIS have confirmed that 16yo midfielder Nuha Jatta has joined Leeds United on trial.

    Jatta has travelled to Thorp Arch for a one-week trial to train with the Under 23s, after the Whites sent an official request to GAIS.

    The 16-year-old became the first 2003-born player to feature in the Swedish top-flight.

    He has also represented his country at U16 level.

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  2. ristac

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    Morning all...

    Only way to make a fair playing field for all top down would be to cap advertising revenue to prevent rich owners like Man City ploughing obscene amount in or banning advertising from that source if there is a link and what about the novel idea of zero losses.

    Every club has to show a profit average for three years.

    Largest five for TV pulling power in this division has to be Derby, Leeds, WBA, Forest, Birmingham in no particular order
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

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    Morning Elland and all. The salary cap is an admiral idea but won't ever happened. It can't be enforced. Clubs will always find ways around it and unless it applied to all divisions including the PL, it would simply increase the drain on whatever quality is left in the Championship. Hoping for a win against Fulham to put a big smile on all our faces for the Christmas festivities
     
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  4. Doc

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    Firstly the TV debate is really all about Radz telling the EFL and Sky to fk off because why should Leeds be on telly 26 times and bring in the 4th highest tv audience including Prem teams but only get 1% of what Brighton get!!,

    As far as wage cap goes an admirable hope, but can you think of any club that got promoted to the Prem fairly? No there isnt one and Ininclude Fulham, QPR, Watford, Wolves, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Brighton, Stoke, Swansea, WBA, Villa, ...... we have been in the same boat as Luton for years and we are now having to make £12m losses to try and donit
     
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  5. ellandback

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    It is well over the top, but there is an unfortunate ring of truth.I was referring to the Ulsterman sketch.
     
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    Remember tomoz we have a rescheduled U23 game away to the Florists. Since this game was called off Leeds have gone on a 5 match winning run so this game against Forest who are favourites this season and top of the table should be good. We have games in hand too
     
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    Racism at its worse :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Sky have figured out that they're boosting Leeds by constantly having them on telly so they've slowed down as much as they can ... salary caps are a must, the sooner the better ... best way is to cap salary at £5k p/week and then let clubs pay on performance, e.g. £20k per goal, £10k per point, bonus based on league position, £20k for starting a game, £5k fr coming on as a sub, etc ... this will focus players and managers and make them earn their corn
     
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    What you talking about Walt, "unfortunate ring of truth"? That's Willie Ulsterman, he lives across the street. <laugh>
     
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    Conceding from a set piece £20,000 penalty
     
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    You'd get players that wouldn't want to pass...
     
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    I would suggest that they will now be in breach of FFFP rules as they will also have lost cash last season in the Championship
     
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    Isn't the assessment of financial propriety done over a three year period and so a "blip" in one year can be overcome by improving in the next 2?
     
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  17. Eireleeds1

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    Probably sell the odd stadium or two
     
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    I wish Sky had forgotten us as I wouldn't have to rise at 3am for the QPR game in the middle of January
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    Salary caps are so easy to get round it's not worth bothering. You've identified one in 'performance', which is
    And the good thing is under the rules is you can sell it to yourself <ok>
     
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    Yeah. ****ed up the quote system.
     
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  21. Doc

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    Eric £39m over 3 years means they have already gone way over in 2 seasons since relegation so guaranteed to breach it as no way will they sell players to bring it back as they need to go again in January to make sure they stay up.. Coats daughter paid herself £326m this year which is a +£100m pay rise on last year which gives you an idea how much Peter Coates is worth
     
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