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Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by AWAY IN BC, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. AWAY IN BC

    AWAY IN BC Well-Known Member

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    So how is the Election going.
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

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    Are you the Samaritans?..............Please say yes as I've phoned them loads of times but their line has exploded.
     
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  3. Plymborn

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    Goodbye Corbyn.....He'll be down his allotment next week hiding behind the potting shed.
     
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    He should be taking Boris down there and burying him by standing on the body himself in the pit whilst dragging the earth onto them.
     
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    Rather quiet on this thread today.

    Fact.....Corbyn and his party blown away.

    Fact.....Joe Swinson not just blown away but humiliated as well.

    Fact.....A big vote to get Brexit done.

    Fact.....A second Referendum blown away.

    Fact.....Revoking article 50 blown away.

    Fact.....Remainers obviously are now a minority and there bleat about a second Referendum would show that people had changed their minds was wrong.

    PS.....Corbyn has done worse than greeny Michael Foot did years back.
     
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  6. notDistantGreen

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    Fact.....A big vote to get Brexit done.

    Fact.....A second Referendum blown away.

    Fact.....Revoking article 50 blown away.

    Fact.....Remainers obviously are now a minority and there bleat about a second Referendum would show that people had changed their minds was wrong.

    All fake news. Only 48% of those voting voted for pro-Brexit parties. The turnout was 67% so 32% of the total electorate have voted for Brexit, and 35% against. It's reasonable to assume that the 33% who didn't vote don't care or know much about Brexit as this was one of the two biggest issues at stake. The other was Corbyn and his hard-left agenda. That latter complication is why we needed a second referendum not an general election so that there was a clear decision on Brexit alone.

    What's skewed the election is traditional Labour voters in the industrial heart lands of the Midlands and the North switching right across to the Conservatives. That is largely driven by Brexit but it's turkeys voting for Christmas on a vast scale as it's there that the manufacturing and industrial jobs will be lost when we leave. Serve you right is all I have to say now.
     
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    How can it be fake news notDistant...it happened before our eyes and the whole country today.....please try and live in the real world.

    Do you need a round three....your 2-0 down....lets get on with life please.
     
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  8. notDistantGreen

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    Your statements are factually incorrect. More seats may have been won by the Conservatives but the votes for leave parties (Tories, Brexit, DUP) are actually less than those in favour of remaining or offering a 2nd referendum (Labour, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, SNP, Greens et al).

    The reason is of course the first past the post system used in general elections and why we need a single issue referendum.

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    I've given you the Alliance although their policy is actually that maintenance of the Union takes precedence over Brexit which is a fudge.
     

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  9. Plymborn

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    10 million Labour anti Brexit voters how can you say that......total fiction to consider that is the case.
     
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    The expression be careful what you wish for comes to mind. Leaving the EU will happen. Whether it's the leaving people envisaged is another matter. When we have left and the jobs start going with it etc then all I can say is the people of this country deserve all they get. The national debt is already almost double what it was. It will probably get a lot worse.
     
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    And equally, not everyone who voted Conservative is a Leaver, especially given tactical voting against the Corbyn factor. You were the one claiming a clear verdict for Leave and whilst Brexit is now virtually certain to happen, this certainly not as clear mandate as a single issue referendum would have been. The clearest fact is that a large majority voted for Remain parties.

    More practically, Johnson so has a big enough majority not to need the ERG. Hopefully that will allow a soft Bexit to protect the jobs of new found supporters in the north.
     
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    Yep Cor-binned indeed.....
     
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    Reading the paper yesterday (got to page 35 with no sign of any story except the election) and today, it's clear vast sums are to be spent in the Midlands and North to redress the huge historical unfairness of so much spending in London and the South East (i.e. to buy working class votes there).

    I'm all in favour of more spending in the provinces. This is badly needed in areas where the main railway line either comes to a grinding halt or is washed away entirely when there's a storm or where the direct road route to London is just two lanes in places, naming no names. Shame we tend to be either safe Con seats or Con/Lib marginals down here in the SW, not Con/Lab marginals as they are in the North and we are therefore going to get diddly squat isn't it?
     
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  14. Greenarmyjoe

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    I will be glad when its all sorted out some how.. Glad that corbyn never got near.. Well i fear for the jobs of people all over the country, may be time for me to call it a day soon.. :D
     
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  15. AWAY IN BC

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    Glad i started the Election Forum
    Your comments have helped me understand the situation.
    Confused that i was and still am.
     
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    Yeah you and 60m people over here! The Brexit fiasco has shattered British society and politics and I'm afraid revealed a lot of nasty beliefs we thought had died back in 20th century,
     
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    :emoticon-0148-yes: its beyond repair now
     
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  18. Greenarmyjoe

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    I will give it 6-9 months and may be time for me to call it a day.. i doubt the corporation tax will go up as much as Corbin was saying :confused:
     
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