Off Topic Politics Thread

This is not about Johnson it's about Corbyn. I haven't said anything in support of Johnson (nor will I) and there's nothing I can add to this thread that hasn't already been said about him. There is though, still plenty to be said about Corbyn and I will at every opportunity. He deserves to be called out for his inexcusable past behavior.
If you are infering that a defeat for Corbyn is a win for Johnson, that may be true but that will have to be on the consciences of the Boris voters not mine. What will not be on my conscience is that I voted for a terrorist's lackey.
There has also been quite a lot of posts claiming a Boris voter lacks principles (or words to that effect) but consider this; voting for Corbyn is at best ignoring his links to terrorists and at worst indifferent to terrorism.

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You're joking of course, but you forgot to put in a smiley.

Just in case you weren't joking, this will help you understand.
Even John McDonnell saw the error of his ways eventually even if you can't.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/18/john-mcdonnell-apologises-for-ira-comment-labour

 

Ok, as long as you waste your energy on here, that's fine. Polls open on Friday in your area.

 

I know a lot of Irish people who would say anyone who supports the British army should be shot. Is that an extreme reaction or a fair one, IOAG?

 

Does it have to be only extreme or fair?

 

And ironic, British governments of all persuasions have supported and feted terrorism by KSA in our name, most recently against the innocent population of Yemen and even against their own citizens.

 

In the last ten years we have seen an unacceptable rise in homelessness and too many people having no option but to live on the streets. We have seen the hiving off of parts of the NHS which linked to it being starved of funds has put enormous strain on reduced staff numbers and has led to a sharp reduction in the number of beds. Most frightening is the impoverishment of children and young families and the total lack of affordable homes. Working people have become poorer while the rich have got very much richer. Pensioners have seen the value of their savings steadily fall as low interest rates and wage inflation diminish its worth while the rich loan their businesses money from their offshore accounts at exorbitant rates to avoid paying tax.

Our infrastructure has crumbled with our road network in an absolute mess riddled with pot holes but for me the most appalling change is peoples absolute selfishness and total lack of compassion together with a distasteful attitude towards the poor.

So today people are going to vote and many will vote for a serial liar. A man who has been sacked because of his lies. A woman is wasting in an Iranian jail because of his lies. People have had their hopes built up by his lies and these are bound to be dashed over the next few years. A man who is leading the most right wing anti Islamic cartel to gain control of the Tory party.

A man who is funded by and has dubious links to the Russians and is doing their dirty work of dismantling the EU for them. That is real treachery not talking to people representing oppressed people to bring about peace. In the treachery stakes Corbyn is very small beer indeed when compared to Johnson. Corbyn has not harmed me or you in anyway whatsoever. What Johnson has set about is the destruction of the organisation that has brought peace to Europe for the last 75 years. He is even about to destroy the fragile peace in Northern Ireland. Johnson is evil personified.

I would not trust Johnson with the small change in my pocket. I wouldn't trust him anywhere near my granddaughters. I would not seek or trust his advice on even the smallest of personal matters.

So today the deferent, the gullible, the callous, the hard hearted, the greedy, and the racists will vote Tory.

As descent human beings it is the responsibility of the rest of us, those of us with compassion, who care about the NHS and who want a better life for everyone to stop him.

So use your vote tactically and lets kick this dreadful man out of government.

Cast your vote for the rich or cast it for everyone.

 

Blimey. If we ever go to battle I want St Godders to do the battle speech.

 

Sorry, just playing the game...

 

I have to say that the test that is applied to third world countries when elections are staged is whether they are free and fair. Has this one been? To paraphrase His Meatiness, one out of two's not bad!

 

Good luck out there today people. Keep smiling.

 

Whatever gave you the idea that I was joking?

 

I'm sure many members of the IRA shared your opinion but about members of the british government.

Imo it's this circle of hate that causes many of these issues.

It's far more obvious with middle eastern terrorism where we blame bombing of uk civilians for bombing the middle east while terrorists and terrorist groups(many the uk government used to work with) blame bombing of middle eastern civilians for bombing western countries.

I'm glad there are people like corbyn who are willing to work with both sides indifferently to achieve peace and save lives.

You quoted an article earlier to use against him but the one quote of corbyn in it actually used was him saying motivations of his actions were to weaken the border in Ireland.

That is now the UK policy and universally accepted as the best strategy for NI peace.
As is working with republicans.

 

Vote for Peace, Vote Labour!

 

And we sold the same weapons to Saddam Hussein that were later used against our own troops.

 

Let’s start with his inexcusable support of Palestinian Human Rights then. Excerpt from a report from Human Rights Watch ...

The Israeli government continued to enforce severe and discriminatory restrictions on Palestinians’ human rights; restrict the movement of people and goods into and out of the Gaza Strip; and facilitate the unlawful transfer of Israeli citizens to settlements in the occupied West Bank.

Israeli forces stationed on the Israeli side of the fences separating Gaza and Israel responded to demonstrations for Palestinian rights on the Gaza side with excessive lethal force. Between March 30 and November 19, security forces killed 189 Palestinian demonstrators, including 31 children and 3 medical workers, and wounded more than 5,800 with live fire. Demonstrators threw rocks and “Molotov cocktails,” used slingshots to hurl projectiles, and launched kites bearing incendiary materials, which caused significant property damage to nearby Israeli communities, and, in at least one instance, fired towards soldiers. Officers repeatedly fired on protesters who posed no imminent threat to life, pursuant to expansive open-fire orders from senior officials that contravene international human rights law standards. In May, the United Nations Human Rights Council set-up a commission of inquiry to investigate the events in Gaza, with a view to identifying those responsible, including in the chain of command, and ensuring accountability.

 

Honestly, anyone that has lapped up the terrorist **** is stupid.

Corbyn has said over and over and over again that he doesn't believe in violence FROM ANY SIDE, and said it's a tragedy on both sides.

Which is EXACTLY THE STANCE WE NEED from someone with control over our armies. Someone willing to talk until the last possible second.

I cant believe people actually think 450,000 labour members would vote for a terrorist.

Stop reading the ****ing daily mail

 

I got my Brexit Nativity scene down from the loft last night. I took out all the Jews, Arabs and other foreigners and all I had left was a Jackass and some sheep

 

Archers ....See my pm please.......Ta muchly