Off Topic Politics Thread

Once again, brilliant.

 

Many thanks Chilco. You are very kind.

 

If you read less enlightened forums, the 2 most popular trends when discussing the child on the hospital floor subject are: 1. the boy should be taken away from his disgusting mother and 2. the NHS is at breaking point because of all the migrants being treated. We ain't got no-one like that on this forum thank God

 

Another view on the hospital and how the media has been used to deflect attention from Johnson, when he is getting a metaphorical kicking. Also mention of automated bots tweeting the exact same comment but claiming to be different people.

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/12/10/...atomy-of-an-election-disinformation-campaign/

 

Mystery solved. The nurse involved in spreading disinformation, isn’t actually a nurse, but a PA to her GP husband.
Their son, however, is a friend of Matt Hancock, no less.
This disgusts me.

 

I just found out the 4 year old daughter of a friend of mine who has a history of pneumonia was turned out of her bed in the Bristol Children’s Hospital at 3am last Friday night because another child had a greater need. Not staged, not made up, not good enough, but inevitable. Guess what, my friend doesn’t blame the staff, or the NHS, but puts the blame squarely with the Tory cuts.

 

That’s a great piece of journalism, and, apart from laying to rest the mythology that’s grown up around this case, it raises a lot of questions about the impartiality of senior broadcasters like Kuenssberg and Peston.

 

Game, set, and match.

 

This deserves to be aired on tv.

 

Recent elections have probably killed the concept of democracy. How can you possibly vote for someone you believe in, how can you know who is telling the truth? A lot is spoken about the right of women to vote, in the UK it was only in 1918 that all men were given the right to vote. It was only 10 years later that women got the right to vote. That was only 100 years ago. Before that you had nothing. There were a few golden years, the NHS, human rights, equal pay. Then, all hail the internet, which will connect the workers of the world. ****, didn't work. Who owned it? same old same old. Not much point in democracy when you're told who to vote for. BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!!!

 

Extract rom a BBC news item:

A campaign group is calling for fact-checking of political advertising to be a legal requirement after what it describes as a "fake news and disinformation general election"

■ for the Conservatives, it said that 88% (5,952) of the party's most widely promoted ads either featured claims which had been flagged by independent fact-checking organisations including BBC Reality Check as not correct or not entirely correct

■ for Labour, it said that it could not find any misleading claims in ads run over the period

Nuff said!

 

Who took the bed away, that the child was originally in? And does it make any difference anyway?

 

Interesting, if depressing, to see how this stuff works.

Maybe the most telling point is we should all guard against confirmation bias. I've become a little more aware of my own and now try to double check stuff I hear and read before accepting it as valid. Sad times.

 

Truly if a bed was taken away yes it does make a difference. That decision needs to be investigated too if that happened. We are not getting all the facts about this. Nor will we I doubt.

 

Did you see my post about my friend’s daughter a couple of hours back? Are you going to demand an explanation for that too?

 

It should be mentioned that hospital beds have been in decline since the 1980's so it's not just the Tories responsible even if it is mostly them. Labour are at fault as well.

 

I think we have all the facts. In case you missed anything...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/little-boy-pneumonia-forced-sleep-21053225.amp


Subsequent attempts to discredit this story have been comprehensively debunked

 

Read up the thread. As I reported from my own experience, Thatcher started it, Major and Blair continued it, but the real decline has been in the last 9 years.

 

No, but we have to trust Beddy!