Off Topic The Politics Thread

i got to see it
then its gone

 

It will be alright on the night mate. We will all go about our lives as usual.... I hope.

 

It disappeared quicker than his white powder.

 

Didn't suggest they were obliged to go but Gove was neither obliged nor invited, no grounds for Tory complaint it's just a stunt, the Gove footage is cringey beyond belief. Its notable the Right wingers Boris and Farage didn't attend, climate change should be the thing dominating this election, shows how much that pair of ****s care.

 

The invincible Tory Andrew Neil....

 

Brexit will dominate the election.

 

So you wish, but in reality 'the people' care more about the NHS and climate change than Brexit. People are getting tired of any question put to any Tory on any subject being answered with the GET BREXIT DONE mantra. It might just be failing.

 

You have evidence they have suppressed the media, more to the ****ing point you have evidence to call the Tories fascists, you need to take a chill pill before you finish up having a major stroke or heart attack old chap.

 

I find it odd that the fascists are always described as Far Right when, in Germany, the Nazi party was effectively a National Socialist party. Among their first critics and opponents were Germany’s conservative professional contingent, who the Nazis quickly realised needed to be marginalised, alienated and discredited.

Whenever there’s accusations of the suppression of truth and the gagging of the free media it’s all too easy (and lazy) to throw in comparisons with fascists. Stalin’s Soviets were pretty good at the same. Modern U.K. politics appear shaped by Blair’s use of Campbell as his media Rottweiler.

Comparing Campbell to Goebbels or the Soviets, of course, is unfair, unreasonable and just plain wrong. He is just a bit of a ****.

And he supports Burnley.

 

You forget how the people feel. They feel betrayed over Brexit and will remember in the election.
Hang on to your last hope Stroller... but you are backing a losing horse.

 

We ‘did’ crime and punishment and the death penalty on here a little while back. All too predictably, the usual suspects expressed their (not wholly without merit) concerns about how innocent people could go to the gallows/chair under capital punishment. We also got to hear how prison should major less punishment n punishment and more on rehabilitation.

Well, here appears to be a great example of what that approach means in practice. I find myself wondering how I’d be feeling now how one of those sadly killed yesterday had been a friend or family member.

This man was convicted of terror offences FFS.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1200666711487328256?s=21

We don’t want innocents to be executed but we’re quite prepared to risk their lives by freeing undesirables back among them.

Appalling.

 

Labour should be ashamed for failing us all on this.

 

We can’t all be as calm and measured as you, Turkish.

 

Left-liberalism, yes.

 

Only the Tories can reverse the poor decisions of the last decade.

 

Fancy making a constructive comment in response to my original post, or are you just going to continue with these stupid comments?

How do you feel about the fact that yesterday’s perpetrator was convicted of terror offences, released and has killed again? If you’re capable of putting yourself in someone else’s shoes, how would you feel having lost a loved one in such circumstances? Would you shrug it off and make some stupid comment about the Conservatives down the pub, or would you want to understand how this was allowed to happen?

There are pretty much nameless, faceless, largely unaccountable individuals making judgement calls about the liberty of people convicted of dangerous crimes - not just terrorism - and their decisions have the potential to catastrophically affect any one of us.

We rail against the death penalty - and even proper life sentences - putting too much stock on the rights of the perpetrator and not enough on what’s good for society as a whole.

Now, are you going to continue sucking on your lollipop and smirking, or are you going to share a proper, considered view on the subject?

 

I think it’s fair to say this situation would be reported very differently under a left wing government as we’ve had it drip-fed to us that Labour are somehow the soft ones on crime.

I’d urge anyone to read The Secret Barrister. The cuts to our justice system make situations like this inevitable.

 

Absolutely. I've just looked at my timeline yesterday, 10 minutes before this incident I dropped off passengers in Swan Lane which is the building next to Fishmongers Hall on Upper Thames Street. At 1.30 my 5 year old grandson was in a school visit with his mum at Southwark Cathedral, they had planned to walk the children over the bridge to see the Monument but didn't have time thank God. The randomness of these incidents is awful when you contemplate what if?...

 

I wouldn’t argue with you that liberal softness has crept into all points on the political spectrum. The Conservative Party has trended towards the centre, particularly from Major onwards and especially with that prick Cameron. I haven’t.

(General Elections have become a vote for the least worse)

Blair claimed his government would be tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime. This has never happened under any political livery.

 

Godwin strikes again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law