Off Topic Brexiterrs vote today

I wouldn't hold your breath

 

you need to go back and review the years before the banking crisis [ happened over a period of a few months and cost the government £xbn which they still have by way of shares and valued at more than they paid plus they get an income from divis I know because I have the same bank shares!] and look at the immense waste of our fine countries assets that they frittered away.
the start of the last labour government fell into a windfall of £trillions of oil and gas revenue. and that was actually a good few years for us all because on the back of broken promises they got in after the tory government had done what they just have sorted out the last labour mess[ you say you don't have a short memory, but I think your short memory forgets you have a short memory ]
sometimes repetition [or as you descend into sarcasm, "waffle", a sign of defeat, when you do not wholly remember / understand certain issues ] is needed because some do not grasp the issue of the past or present.

that was 3 times more disasterous than Nicola [ stand in for leader of the SNP MP's who would have been left as chaff blown away by the wind ]
looking forward to "JO" undemocratic Liberals ... she must be really kacking herself having seen the destruction he can inflict …… Jo is mono egoistically minded and uses "we are an alternative option and we wish to appear to be the most honest, by saying will revoke article 50 within hours of getting into power, [attractive to remain voters ] and by stating things you want to hear as a safety valve"
the best one is likely to be Nigel … he has been up against him before and in fairness they both held their own .
As for Boris, he is able to think on his own 2 feet which Nicola and Corbyn cant …

we saw just how quick the responses to the interviews were being discussed especially being given CORBYN was given at least 5 ? opportunities to apologise ...he didn't he just covered himself in self esteem with his I have spent the whole of my life blah blah blah .
Boris has sort of apologised, when he gave an explanation of "why" some of the things he said were said as he said them A simple "I am sorry to any one who feels offended by comments, I HAVE MADE " it was not my intention to offend ….
Nurses I think there has been some sort of explanation, maybe not from Boris but one of his party said "it is not a quick fix" we have 3 or so ways to complete our aim ….

 

It will be another car crash me thinks. Andrew Neil wants direct answers due to time constraints. Politicians never answer in just a couple of words. They go around and around to waste time in answering the question so they don't get as many questions asked. Like last night, Corbyn wouldn't answer direct but just kept repeating himself and Andrew Neil kept saying "yes you said that already, answer the question". Corbyn didn't like that at all. Unfortunately all politicians are the same and frustrate the hell out of us with their answers and makes it impossible to trust them. Probably the best who answers direct questions is Farage. He is more blunt and to the point which is what we prefer but people don't like him either because he says a lot of stuff that is viewed immoral. Like cutting the foreign aid and saying he wants to use that money to "help our own people first". His views to a lot of people make him out to be racist and he is always attacked for that. He basically acts how we want a leader to act but say the things a lot of people don't want to hear.

At the moment we have Boris vs Corbyn at PMQ's, which to be honest is more of a comedy sketch than serious politics. PMQ's would be far more serious and far more stronger in parliament and would look very strong around the world if it was Farage vs Sturgeon, as they both are very strong leaders. Never will happen of course.

 

I would love Nigel Farage as the Tory leader no problem with that.

 

So you are saying most of us on here are not bright enough to understand your way of explaining things , I’m picking my words carefully here , rather than you being at fault for explaining things in such a convoluted way. In essence your bright and we aren’t.

 

I think some people get on the bandwagon regarding Farage being racist.....I don't think he's anymore racist than the rest of them if I'm honest...And most of what he says, is what I want to hear......putting the people of the UK first.....There are a lot of people out there, thinking.."should I be agreeing with this man?" And worried about what other people might think ......It's all a bit of a front if you ask me....cotton wool/tree huggers...In my view, I know it's not going to happen, but Parliament needs A Nigel Farage, whether you agree with his polices or not..................He gives it to you REAL..

 

If Boris comes over as he did in Cornwall this afternoon it will do him no harm. It has to rate as one of the best sessions of the campaign so far by anyone!

Mcdonnel stepped in today to try and repair Jeremy's reluctance to apologize... JC was asked again twice today [ at least ] and he just passed it over … his side kick said we have apologized … although seemed to be in the past tense as opposed to being in response to yesterdays proclamations !
What a waste [ TREE'S AND RESOURCES ] had half a tonne of "410 pages" of selling the NHS on display in Falmouth wonder how many more pallets of this "red herring" will he have had printed. All he can do with it is show 2 pages of blanked out writing assuming it was the conspiracy pages confirming we will sell the NHS..... and when asked about certain other things contained within .. he moves on!

 

Swinson and Farage next week I think, Johnson hasn't agreed a date with the BBC yet despite long negotiations, surely he isn't scared of being questioned on his integrity and his manifesto?

 

gardener the shadow trade secetary /minister ...totally smashed by Andrew Neil … on the 461 page booklet [ apologies thought it was 410 ] and as a matter interest the 461 pages are not just about[ non] selling out the NHS to the USA … " its just a few pages/ chapter" and the scored out pages not necessarily about [ NON ]selling the NHS! could be about bananas from TOBAGO!
Gardeners facial expressions were classic "I'm a Corbyn labourite GET ME OUT OF HERE ]

 

WATCH | Labour are making a habit of disastrous interviews on Andrew Neil.

Barry Gardiner gets called out by Neil on the Labour Party's totally unfounded fear-mongering over the NHS.

Why would we pay American prices for drugs from India or France? Ludicrous scaremongering.

 

My opinion is Labour has this document for a while and was waiting to use it a certain time to take the heat off themselves or to hit the Tories when they were already down. Unfortunately for them, it was used to take the heat off themselves. Bit of a coincidence that they get the document just a few hours after Corbyns disastrous interview with Andrew Marr! He knew it was a train crash so used that document try try and spin his crap interview around so the negative attention goes to Boris.

But its backfired. This document has been proved by many experts that Corbyn is clutching at straws at best.

 

nearly every comment made by Gardener was but a retraction/spin of the comments/ of the answers he had given a bit before. To get himself out of the s**** he used the para phrase "we aint out of the EU yet so it doesnt/cant apply, CANT NEGOTIATE" ………... then turned it , tried to, the opposite way when applied to the Tories, STATED IT AS IF THEY HAD negotiated!
Buckland did anyone notice the massive change in tone of the interview? Buckland was telling the truth, so it was a more relaxed encounter, Andrews aggressive approach at the start was quickly honed down.... telling the truth is easy .. telling lies is difficult, telling lies you have to remember what was said before that's why Corbolliks is in a mess .. he is programmed by his puppeteers , so that is why his answers always resonate around stating phraseology he has used before [ usually minutes before ]…
The biggest point to come out of all this is this paper is not recent, it goes back 3 or 4 years [ there were quotes of stuff from 2017 ]… when you "sell" something [ I don't mean from shops] you have to do a lot of planning, similiarly when you buy something [ not from shops ] you have to do a lot of planning … eg when airbus sell a plane it isn't done in a few minutes or weeks both sides have a plan = to what we want what we don't want … and then an agreement is struck, when both sides are happy. These preliminaries may take a year or more but actual agreement bit a matter of days …! The seller will be pushing and the buyer delaying [ might not want straight away, needs to get the cash, wait for trade to stabilize or routes confirmed etc etc etc

 

He certainly is

 

just watched todays CORBYN presentation … couldn't believe he is still holding the blanked out pages of the obsolete "book of 461 " and stating we are selling off the NHS …
Was looking for the SNP manifest but at the mo cant find it .. all the other parties manifests when published were available within minutes …. obviously just a page stating we want another referendum ……….

 

Christ John - get a life........

 

Are you talking about Andrew Neil, the one Boris won’t do a show with?

 

I don't like polls as I think they are not accurate enough. However, if Boris believes in them, does he really need to do the interview? The current polls suggest he will have a majority over 60 MP's. Don't confuse this as me trying to justify his absence. I am not. He should have to face the same scrutiny as the other hopefuls. I would like to see how he handles the same treatment from Andrew Neil. I think it will be another car crash and a comedy show. Hope it happens but like the build up to his party election where he was missing a lot, maybe because he felt if he stays away, he can't say nothing wrong! It worked then, maybe he thinks it will now. Currently he doesn't need to do anything as Corbyn's and Swinson's mouth is handing Boris the majority win anyway.

 

I wanted to post this pointless comment just so I get the 2000th comment on this thread