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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. davecg69

    davecg69 Well-Known Member

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    sadly, I think Pfeffel will get an easier ride because Neil is associated directly with the Leave group and the right wing. Plus his bosses will fell him to go easy.
    Personally I’d love to see him absolutely skewer Pfeffel on the spit of his lies, deceit, failure to achieve anything, his governments shoddy record over the last years, his islamaphobia, his relationship with Arcuri, the Russia report which he won’t release ..... the list goes on and on .....
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I don’t think it’s at all true that ordinary Jewish Labour voters are losing trust in Corbyn. They know, probably better than most of us, why Jewish establishment figures constantly undermine anyone who criticises the Israeli state. As far as I can see antisemitism in the Labour Party, which is minuscule anyway, IS being dealt with as swiftly as possible, but the right wing press are hardly going to acknowledge that.
    The line that some are pushing that Corbyn is himself antisemitic is, with his history, too ridiculous to comment on.
     
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  3. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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  5. San Tejón

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    660,000 voter registrations on the final day, the majority being below the age of 44, which could be good news for Labour.
    Previous day around 366,000, again primarily from the younger age groups.

    By my reckoning 4.8 million new registrations, with the large majority being from the younger age groups. I hope they exercise their right and make it to the polling station.
    Oh and Johnson has made no attempt to get people to register, nor Swinson, because they knew that the majority of people missing from the electoral register were young.
    They are afraid of the young.


    https://www.gov.uk/performance/register-to-vote
     
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    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    To give Andrew Neil his due, he's an attack dog, and if he smells blood he’ll tear anyone apart. He’s obviously a Tory, but I doubt that means Boris will get an easy ride; Neil enjoys savaging interviewees, regardless of who they are.

    That’s why Boris is ducking him.
     
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  9. San Tejón

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    Just watched the one my 96 year old neighbour calls ' The girl who runs Scotland'. I just wish we has one party leader as good as that.
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Interesting read? It's more like devastating. I have personally known people in the NHS who said that things were going downhill in the BlairBrown era. They didn't have words sufficent for the Cameron era. Can you imagine what this cock-up of a Tory party is considering now? Probably nothing less than an American system, which leads to charity hospitals, and a person's ability to pay to see whether they die or recover.

    NOTE: BTW, I'm posting that statement to anyone I know who considers voting Tory.
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Miriam Margolyse, not Corbyn’s biggest fan, defends him on antisemitism:
     
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    I can't like that. It sounds right but be prepared to validate the source. A surreptitious video with a challenge to the Johnson something to express the disgust that he's held in. Need to get the digital evidence out there.
     
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  14. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    In all honesty, I'm talking about specific people I know who need tipping over the edge. They already have all the evidence. They just need the push.
     
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    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Here’s some more to post to your friends, from the same source as Badger’s post:
    Some of the issues to ask about:
    • Ask them whether the junior doctors were treated fairly and with respect during their confrontation with then-Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
    • Ask them if they actually know anyone working in the NHS who has confidence in the pompous liar that Boris Johnson has put in charge now (Matt Hancock).
    • Ask them if their own primary care trust is in deficit.
    • Ask them whether they feel that their colleagues are ever more stressed and overworked as they try to cope with increasing demand for services while funding and staffing levels are slashed year after year.
    • Ask them whether they think the NHS can actually survive if the Tories carry on like this.
     
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  17. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Summary of the leaked 451-page US-UK trade talks documents, including the rather sinister bullet point

    "A promise by both sides to keep talks secret from the public."

    No wonder the document was redacted

    • The US pushing lower food standards on Britain post Brexit, including allowing imports of chlorine-washed chickens, less nutritional labelling on foods, and less protection for regional food like stilton cheese. The US offered to help the UK government ‘sell’ chlorine chicken to a sceptical British public and stated that parliamentary scrutiny of food standards is ‘unhelpful’. (2nd working group, pp42-43)

    • The US banning any mention of climate change in a US-UK trade deal. (2nd working group, p17)

    • US officials threatening UK civil servants that they would undermine US trade talks if they supported certain EU positions in international forums. (5th working group, p35)

    • The US suggesting a ‘corporate court system’ in a US-UK deal, which would allow big business to sue the British government, in secret and without appeal, for anything they regard as ‘unfair’. Recent similar cases have included suing governments for trying to phase out use of coal. (4th working group, pp92-98, 5th working group, p35)

    • US officials pushing a far reaching proposals on the digital economy, giving big tech companies like Facebook, Google and Amazon sweeping freedoms to move and use our online data, which would make taxation and regulation of these companies more difficult and prohibit Labour proposals for a public broadband service.(4th working group, pp99-100)

    • Threats to public services like the NHS, via sweeping services liberalisation. The British government would need to exclude everything not subject to liberalisation in order to protect public services, while bringing formerly public services like the mail, or rail companies back into public ownership would be much harder. (3rd working group, pp41-42)

    • US officials making a further threat to NHS in terms of medicine pricing policy, with special concern about Brits paying more for cancer medicines which the US feels Britain doesn’t pay enough for (4th working group, pp121-132). Trade negotiators have received special lobbying from pharmaceutical corporations as part of the trade talks. (5th working group, pp43-44)

    • US officials demanding US experts and multinational corporations are able to participate in standard-setting in Britain post Brexit. (4th working group, p58-59)

    • A promise by both sides to keep talks secret from the public. (2nd working group, p5 & 8)
     
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    ****ing hell.

    And the idiots will still vote for them
     
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  19. Schrodinger's Cat

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    It'll be branded fake news and swept under the media carpet
     
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