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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    What did you have in mind?
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Grayling is probably my personal fave.
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's good that he's no longer on the scene
     
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  4. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Could you imagine the product of a Grayling/Abbott union?...<laugh>
     
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  5. Sooperhoop

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    Ditto, my missus would be owed £20K+, a cynical pitch at 60-65 year old women but what would the long term cost be?...

     
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  6. Sooperhoop

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    And you wonder why the LibDems are getting nowhere in the polls?...

     
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  7. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    No grey areas, apart from his beard, you either love him or hate him and the haters are in the ascendancy...

     
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    If he ever got a fair crack from the press I think he’d be quite popular. He’s proven he’s a good campaigner.
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

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  10. Stroller

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    From an extremely low base admittedly, but given a proper hearing he can close the gap on Johnson by 12th December.

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  11. Sooperhoop

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    It's self-inflicted, he spent over 30 years as a backbench nonetity, the schoolboy Marxist who never grew up supporting every extremist that crossed his path. Then, thanks to some idiot nominating him for the Leadership to make up the numbers, the extreme left of the Party saw their chance to carry out a coup and the man who spent his whole career voting against everything his Party stood for became their Leader. None of the Labour MPs outside his inner circle can stand him but they're so frightened of Momentum they do f*ck all about it and Labour's chances of taking advantage are disappearing fast. As long as Momentum pull the strings Labour will suffer. It's just a shame there's no figure in the centre ground that has the gravitas to command respect and lead a sensible soft Left alternative...
     
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  12. Star of David Bardsley

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    Starmer would be good. They definitely picked the ****ter Milliband too. I agree he’s viewed as unelectable and the way Labour choose their leader negates their chances of actually winning. It’s far too idealistic.

    Not sure it would help much with voters chasing the religious Brexit though.
     
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  13. Sooperhoop

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    Starmer certainly has the experience and is probably the best of the shadow cabinet contenders but I doubt he'd be far enough left for Momentum who quite clearly run the show at present. It's a shame Alan Johnson quit when he did, he'd have fitted the bill perfectly...
     
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    You have mentioned Starmer before Watford. I think he comes across a bit ‘slimy’. Labour would be better off with ‘Millybland’ if the can get him away from the US.
     
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    But why would he come? He's making millions and millions from his charity work. True socialist
     
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    We don't need a soft alternative. I don't care who the leader is as long as they continue with the radical policies that Corbyn and McDonnel have put forward. The 2017 manifesto was very popular with the public and I think that the 2019 would prove equally so if it wasn't for he farce of Brexit.
     
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    Starmer has the gravitas but is lacking in charisma. The young Blair had both. Then it went to his head and he declared war on Iraq.
     
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    The 2017 manifesto was very popular with the public because it promised to leave the European Union by “accepting the result of the referendum”, and that “freedom of movement would end when we leave the European Union”.
     
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    Not sure that adds up when you consider how they fare across the age groups.

    Plus they’re both ****ing atrocious ideas.
     
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  20. Stroller

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    Don't be daft.
     
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