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Off Topic 2019 GE

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Saf, Oct 30, 2019.

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Who will you support in the 2019 GE

  1. Conservatives

  2. Labour

  3. Brexit Party

  4. Lib Dems

  5. Greens

  6. Independent

  7. UKIP

  8. I support my legs because my legs support me lol

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  1. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    They’re counted in order to ensure the total papers = the number of voters, but don’t think read out with candidate scores
     
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  2. Sheep Farmer

    Sheep Farmer Well-Known Member

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    I thought that they were but Google gives a mixed range of answers, some saying yes and some no. I'll have to listen to the election results announcements more carefully in future!
     
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  3. Class of 73

    Class of 73 Well-Known Member

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    Doh! They died trying to change the system so that the ordinary working men and women could vote and live in a fairer society. People are still fighting for democracy in China, Russia, North Korea, Hong Kong and in many other countries around the world. Persecuted by hard line hard line regimes that squash dissent with violence. Remember

    1989 Tiananmen Square protests
    Part of Chinese democracy movement in 1989, Revolutions of 1989 and the Cold War
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    Tiananmen Square in May 1988: Democracy movement exterminated

    Remember the Nazi party bullied and intimidated their way into power and then under Nazi rule, all other political parties were banned.
    In 1933, the Nazis opened their first concentration camp, in Dachau, Germany, to house political prisoners. Dachau evolved into a death camp where countless thousands of Jews died from malnutrition, disease and overwork or were executed. In addition to Jews, the camp’s prisoners included members of other groups Hitler considered unfit for the new Germany, including artists, intellectuals, Gypsies, the physically and mentally handicapped and homosexuals. Democracy movement exterminated

    You can be whoever you want in this country, because of democracy. Let’s see how the LGBT community would get on with their marches in somewhere like Iran. To my mind everyone should exercise their right to vote and not doing so dishonours those who did, or who are still trying to fight for that right.
     
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  4. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    unless they start by stating x number of votes were cast in this constituency, of which x were spoilt , and then go through the candidates ? I’ll have to listen carefully as well - it’s got me thinking!
     
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  5. Owld Feller

    Owld Feller Well-Known Member

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    Where's @Brainman when he's needed to give us an update on what democracy means to him?

    PLUS why he and some others seem to believe that a government (any government) is capable of managing/spending their money better than those who've worked for it.

    Then why European Bureaucrats should be given any responsibility beyond managing their own piggy banks?
     
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  6. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Just caught quite a strong intelligent women speaking at the Trump/Congress Impeachment hearing. Apparently she had to move to the states because having a working class NE accent would have meant being held back in UK Academia.
     
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  7. Jerry lee

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  8. Owld Feller

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    Given that the poll ratings have barely changed between the two major parties, and we're now at the half way point in the GE campaign with Corbyn proving (yet again) that he's an absolute liability (only 6% believing he he's up to the job of being P.M.), how do other board members believe it will turn out?

    One thing that I find particularly interesting is that I've yet to see any poll that indicates how his puppeteer (John McDonnell) is regarded as a future Chancellor

    I reckon that the Conservatives will be elected with a working majority and the dreamers (e.g. Joe Swinson) will be relegated to the dustbin of history.
     
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  9. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    It’s a concern for me that the Brexit party are running in so many seats.
    This region voted to leave, but the regions MP’s voted remain. I don’t know how folk can back a person who didn’t stand by their wishes.
    Never voted conservative in my life, but there’s no way Corbyn and Abbot are up to the job. That’s a scary thought!
     
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  10. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Who are these workers exactly.
     
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  11. Sheep Farmer

    Sheep Farmer Well-Known Member

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    I hope that at least someone gets overall power but I fear that he challenge of voting for a party that backs a voters Brexit stance whilst being totally opposed to their political views will be too much for many so I foresee very little change in the balance of power.
     
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  12. Owld Feller

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    Taxpayers.

    Never forget that no government has any money of its own until they take it from the people who have earnt it by placing taxes on their income or purchases - normally, both.
     
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  13. Flash Gordon

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    So what makes Boris Johnson "up to the job" but not Corbyn?
     
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  14. Flash Gordon

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    So let's not tax anyone. Who's paying for the upkeep of the transport systems that allow you to get to work? Who's paying for the schools that allow your children to get the education they need to earn a decent wage? Who's paying for the hospital's that look after you and your family?
     
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  15. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    This country can't afford Corbyn. His government would seriously put the country at risk with their spending. That's apart from their abhorrent views on white people, Jewish people and sympathy for terrorism.
     
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  16. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    The labour manifesto is fully costed. Which part specifically can we not afford?

    Some would say that the poor people of this country can't afford another Conservative government. It's killing them, quite literally.

    These 10 years of evidence that the Conservatives have been worse with the finances than labour.

    Also, what are their abhorrent views on White people?

    How do you feel about the conservatives "abhorrent" views on Muslim people or gay people?

    What about them illegally providing arms to the country that exports more terrorists, the middle East and practices the most radical kind of Islam than anyone else?
     
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  18. clockstander

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    No more so than Boris, Micheal and Jacob.
    You know little of what you are talking about, how much tax do these lot evade, I don't know, and I guess you don't either, but they don't pay anything without a fight thats why they are mega rich, get real, or take a walk.
     
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  19. Owld Feller

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    Are you just naturally offensive, or did you have to take lessons?

    My bet would be on the former, because the latter would have been too much for you to comprehend, even at infant level.
     
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  20. Saf

    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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    The IFS blew the Labour manifesto apart. They simply can't afford what they're promising. It's hardly a shock, is it?

    Just Google Diane Abbott's quotes on white people. You'll see what I mean.

    The last Labour governments left us penniless. The one before that give us the winter of discontent. The Conservatives simply had no choice but to take austerity measures. Labour can't be trusted with the finances.
     
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