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General Election 2019

Discussion in 'Watford' started by colognehornet, Oct 31, 2019.

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General Election 2019

  1. Labour

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. Tory

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Lib. Dem

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. Green Party

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
  5. Brexit Party

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  6. SNP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Plaid Cymru

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. None of the above

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  9. My legs because they support me

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
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  1. superhorns

    superhorns Well-Known Member

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    Boris has already announced increased funding for the NHS which was higher than the amount on the bus. This new amount is extra extra funding. The public clearly think the Tories are the best political option for the NHS.
     
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    If you try really hard you should be able to come up with something.
     
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  3. yorkshirehornet

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    Read my thought for the day.. It was posted with you in mind
     
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  4. yorkshirehornet

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    Zero evidence for your assertion.. More half truths like your, latest... , hero
     
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  5. superhorns

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    Yes, I thought it was rather silly. Try to contribute to the discussion rather than sniping about others. I'd like to know your opinion on the reports of many safe Labour Northern constituencies maybe turning blue?
     
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  6. superhorns

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    There are polls that have the Tories as the most trusted party on the NHS, the public realise the alternative is financial Armageddon.
     
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  7. yorkshirehornet

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    The highest number of people (31%) trust Labour to “ensure the NHS is a publicly funded and publicly run institution”. Meanwhile, only 18% trust the Conservatives.
     
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  9. colognehornet

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    To be honest SH if your only contributions on here are going to be restricted to one poll after another rather than actually debating policies then it's all going to get a little boring on here. I know that the polls are showing the Tories ahead, and you don't need to keep reminding us in this gloating fashion. This is to be expected because the Tories are getting their lion's share of positive media coverage, whereas Labour are being ripped into by most of the gutter press. As the campaign draws on, and Labour's manifesto is released together with equal amounts of TV time, this may change. At the moment Labour's message is not getting out, and the only thing that most people know about Corbyn is what the media tells them. Take one small point - free broadband for all households and business's in the UK. The importance of this cannot be overstated because house prices can be affected by this. Whole rural areas without reliable internet can become undesirable areas, and, if that happens the entire infrastructure suffers - broadband also creates the possibility of working from home for many people. Britain (and Germany) have lagged behind on this in comparison with countries like Korea. Yet one of the headlines on this from one of the Tory gutter newspapers was 'Labour wants free porn for everyone'. My fear is that this will be the dirtiest campaign ever, which will do nothing to enhance Britain's reputation abroad - it may even be a violent one if MPs are being told by the police that they shouldn't canvass alone. From the Tory side we have seen lies, lies about the lies, faked videos, closed parliaments, suppressed reports on foreign involvement, and lastly accusations of electoral fraud. The media in a democracy should be crucifying them for this - but instead they are more concerned about whether Corbyn wears Venezualan underpants.
     
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  10. superhorns

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    The violence angle can be discounted especially when compared to our EU neighbours where death and maiming are common place for political disagreements.

    If you think that Corbyn's problem is just biased reporting from certain elements of the press you are miscalculating the mood of the country. The public do not like his politics, his views on Jewish people, the Royal family etc. He is completely out of step and will be gone by 13th December. The Labour Party obviously did not learn the lesson when they tried similar policies under Michael Foot, they were crushed at the election, I expect similar results this time.
     
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  11. colognehornet

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    Firstly his opinions on the Royal Family are private, and irrelevant to the question because they are not part of Labour's policy. As for Jewish people - Israel is not immune to the same criticism which can be levelled at any other country on this planet. His actual policies are, as yet, unknown because the manifesto has not come out yet. Their problem lies with Brexit alone. The problem is that everyone knows that a Tory majority would mean Boris's deal, and probably a hard Brexit further along the line. Everyone knows what would happen with a Lib Dem majority. The same is not true of Labour - we know they would try to negotiate a deal, which they would then offer up for a referendum (with remain also a possibility) - so nobody knows if we would still be in the EU or not after a year of Labour in office. As a result their manifesto has to be applicable in both cases, which is far more difficult. The only way we will get to know if Britain still wants Brexit is if we get a Labour government - all other roads close that possibility. I have not heard that the British public are against Corbyn's economic ideas - at least not the Britain which lies outside of your Berkhamstead bubble - their problem is that Brexit is completely distorting the campaign. Tony Blair was right on this - Labour should have been angling for a post Brexit election, which was about real issues and policies.
     
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  12. superhorns

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    Hopefully after Labour's fourth defeat on the trot Momentum and far left wing supporters like yourself will plod on with these policies for many more years to ensure the continuation of the Conservatives running the UK government. Brexit is distorting the picture, Labour voters will not forgive and forget the betrayal by their MP's over the last few months in parliament.

    There will not be a Labour majority, there will not be a LibDem majority. The LibDems have ruled out supporting a Corbyn minority government. It looks like the only sensible option is a healthy Tory majority.
     
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    The infiltrated Momentum group might be the only ones left in the Labour Party soon.

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    The chair of the Leicester East Labour Party, John Thomas, has said he is resigning from the Labour Party and has called Corbyn "a clown" He concluded he has "nothing in common with the Labour Party under its current leadership".
     
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  14. colognehornet

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    Just go one debating with yourself I have better things to do.
     
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  15. colognehornet

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    Just go one debating with yourself I have better things to do.
     
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  16. superhorns

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    C'mon it's not all bad. At least Jeremy will have time next year to be in the jungle, I'm a celebrity get me out of here!!! :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    An example of how easy it is to get the poll results you want...
     
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  18. superhorns

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    It is not good to show the Tories with such a commanding lead, it could make Tory voters complacent, especially on a cold December day. Labour does seem to have a lot of problems which are not currently being solved.
     
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  19. yorkshirehornet

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    Arrogant triumphal posturing will see you alone in here SH.
    The country needs unifying...
     
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  20. yorkshirehornet

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    I just see the Tories have had to suspend Ryan Houghton for ultra right anti semitic views....
    I expect this to get little media coverage...
     
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