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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Look at the map towards the end. It is enough to make you weep.

     
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  2. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    People, in the UK, and especially in the USA, are encouraged, by right wing politicians, to see Socialism as the same as Communism. Once the people are convinced, it absolves those politicians of doing anything to represent the vast majority of the population. They aren't the same. Not even close. Capitalism exists within Socialism. Capitalism should not exist within Communism, but [allegedly] does illegally. Putin, loves it, I've no doubt.
    Incidentally, Trump adores Communism. Especially the Russian kind. He's not so keen on China though.
     
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    Pfeffel's Yankee girlfriend on the telly box dishing the dirt by the bucketload. Sounds as if Cummings answered the phone to her and pretended to be an Uncle Ted coolie.!
     
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    This is reminiscent of the Ken Loach film, I, Daniel Blake.
    So sad and so unnecessary.

     
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    Is this how it works?

     
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    I don't mind them fiddling the figures in that way. It probably reduces the fear of Corbyn factor. If it lulls Tories into a false sense of security that's fine by me. I will be happy to get a nice surprise on December 12 at 10pm. As it is I will settle for Labour winning anything close to their 2017 tally.
     
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    Uh, yeah, that's complete nonsense. Read the whole thread.





    In general, any time you see someone say "I've unskewed the polls!", it can be dismissed out of hand.
     
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    Stick yer pole up yer hole
    They're wrong on the whole
     
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  10. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    I was talking to a young guy, earlier, who works for BBC Newsbeat.
    I didn’t know what that was, but he explained that it is a service aimed at 18-30 year olds.
    I gave him a quote for his next show, but I doubt he will use it, as it was unsolicited. I told him to “encourage the young to get out and vote at the General Election, to save the country, as us old bastards (a generalisation as I know that many of us voted Remain) had ruined it by voting leave at the EU referendum”.
    If anyone wants to get involved with giving their political point of view, the BBC will be out in numbers, in Southampton, Tuesday 19th.
     
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    The latest estimate is that almost one voter in three will vote tactically. If that turns out to be the case then Pfeffel will be in trouble.
     
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    Let us all hope so for the sake of our children and grandchildren. Brexit isn't shooting yourself in the foot it is shooting yourself in both feet and chopping of your hands. Our children deserve better than a government led by this bunch of lying, self seeking, Tory spoiled boy scoundrels
     
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  13. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    You don't think both sides will vote tactically?
     
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  14. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Yes, obviously Tory voters will tactically vote for whoever is most likely to beat the Tory candidate.
     
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    The Tory voters I know (mostly family and their equally greedy friends) are not bright enough to know what voting tactically means. They are mostly arrogant, overweight, have large pensions, still take the winter fuel payment, drive bloody big cars and just assume that because the NHS has always been there for them, it always will be. Run to the doctor's every time they fart twice in a minute or get a cold. They also have more important things to worry about, such as their golf handicap.

    Selfish tossers....
     
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    How can a Tory voter vote tactically? There is no advantage to him/her by electing a Lib Dem or a Labour MP. I suppose they could vote Brexit. I would support that wholeheartedly.

    On the subject of polling I think that this election poses rather more problems for the pollsters than ever before. There is some truth in the argument I heard recently that this isn't so much a General Election as 650 individual elections. Sone constituencies e.g. Southampton Itchen are very straightforward with a tiny Tory majority and a straight fight. My guess is that we are going to see many three way marginals in other areas. Then we have seats like those contested by Grieve and Gauke, safe Tory but how many Remain voters will support the rebel and potentially let in another party.Its fascinating.
     
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  17. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    I imagine all the Tories in Hornsey and Wood Green will be voting LibDem, as the Blue Meanies themselves have no chance.

    Kensington will be an interesting London seat. The Tories really ought to walk it, as it’s probably the most affluent constituency in the country, but the new hard right Brexaggedon Max Tories alienated enough of their supporters to ensure they lost the seat to Labour in 2017, and now all three major parties are apparently neck and neck.
     
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  18. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    Not necessarily if the tory has no chance they just might vote greens or even Lib Dems just to keep labour out..........
     
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    The only thing dividing the Tories and Lib Dems seems to be Brexit, but that is quite a divide right there. Not sure how that can be bridged.
     
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    There are only four Lib Dem target seats that are held by Labour that might have a serious chance of changing hands. The fifth closest is Burnley that requires 16% swing. Conversely there are thirty Tory held seats that look vulnerable.
     
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